Hi Daniel. Thank you for your extensive information. It seems that the issue with MS-DOS (Fat 32) is that it cannot store files above 2GB in size. The video file I wanted to store is 2.3GB.
Perhaps Mac OS Journaled does not have this restriction ? But that is an issue if it is to be used by a Windoze user. > On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:07 pm, Daniel Kerr <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Stephen and all,…. > > Just a few other things that can affect this as well. > I’ll try explain it as best as possible. > > With a Thumb Drive, if you have any items on it, and these get put into the > “Trash”, they will stay there. Unless the Trash is “emptied” then although > the Thumb Drive “appears empty” the items will still take up space as they’re > sitting in the drive. > A USB stick has it’s own “Trash”. And your User account (it when you have the > computer on), also has it’s “own” Trash. > Though they can appear to be “one and the same” they are actually different. > > To try and explain this another way. > Let say you have nothing plugged in to your computer. You start the computer > up and are just using it “as normal” (i.e. no external hard drives or USB > drives plugged in). If you go and empty the Trash, you’ll get the “changed > icon” of the Trash. (i.e. it will go from being a Full Trash icon to an Empty > Trash icon). If you double click it to view the Trash, it will be empty. > Now, if you plug in a USB drive or external drive. If it has anything still > sitting in the Trash, the Trash can icon will “magically” appear to be full > again. And if you view the contents, you’ll see things in there. These items > would belong to the Trash. > (you can also do this experiment by emptying the computer Trash. Then if you > have a folder on the drive, (or create an empty folder) then drag it to the > Trash. The trash icon will appear to be “full”. But once you eject the Hard > Drive/USB drive, the Trash can will be empty again. Once you plug the drive > back in, the Trash can will fill up again. (as it’s showing items on the > external drive). > > I always try and keep my Trash can empty. That way when I plug things in, I > know if they have anything to “check” or are completely free of space, as the > Trash will also be empty. It’s a bit easy to trash where things are “Stored” > as to what trash is there as well. (and then knowing that each drive is > completely free when I plug it in). > > I’ve seen this happen before, where a USB stick will “appear” to be empty, > but because the Trash can is “full” from things on the computer, as well as > things on the external drive, you can’t tell the difference. So don’t realise > the USB drive isn’t actually “empty”. > > Re the formatting of it. For the “best fit” for most computers MS-DOS(FAT32) > is the better one to use. ExFat is meant to be a new (better) format, but on > some machines they still may not recognise it. So to get the “best for > everything” I’d say go with the MSDOS(FAT32). > > Hope that information helps people. (It’s a bit confusing, so hopefully it > makes sense,…hehe). > > Kind regards > Daniel > > Sent from my iPhone 7 > > --- > Daniel Kerr > MacWizardry > > Phone: 0414 795 960 > Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> > Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> > > > **For everything Apple** > > NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and > as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. > Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or > accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this > email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the > author be requested. > >> On 30 Nov 2017, at 9:48 pm, Stephen Chape <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Rob. >> Just tried thumb drive 16GB again. >> Does appear in Finder Sidebar. >> Also now appears in Disk Utility (must have a mind of its own - now you see >> me, now you don’t) >> >> Formatted in MS-DOS(Fat 32) >> >> Other options are: >> Mac OS Ext Journaled >> Mac OS Ext Case sensitive Journaled >> ExFat >> >> Which do you suggest for use on both Mac and Windows ? >> >>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 8:49 pm, Rob Phillips <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Strange. >>> >>> I just inserted one and it came up in disk utility. >>> Another one didn't come up immediately, but did ask if I wanted to erase it. >>> >>> Does the thumb drive appear in the finder? >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> On 30/11/17 6:45 pm, Stephen Chape wrote: >>>> Thank you Rob. >>>> Do you know how to format a thumb drive ? >>>> It does not show up in Disk Utility. >>>> >>>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 6:38 pm, Rob Phillips <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Stephen >>>>> I've experienced this a few years ago. As I recall.... >>>>> >>>>> The drives are probably formatted with one of the old Windows formats - >>>>> can't remember the name... FAT? >>>>> >>>>> On these drives the size limit of a single file is around 2GB >>>>> >>>>> If you format the drive with a modern Windows format, it will copy OK. Or >>>>> in a Mac format - but then you can't share with everyone... >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Rob >>>>> >>>>> On 30/11/17 6:03 pm, Stephen Chape wrote: >>>>>> Hi folks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Today a friend asked me to copy an MOV file onto a thumb drive for him. >>>>>> The file is 2.23GB. >>>>>> >>>>>> It will not copy to a 8GB or a 16GB or a 32GB thumb drive because “it is >>>>>> too large for the drives”. >>>>>> I have since burnt onto a DVD for him instead. >>>>>> >>>>>> But I cannot understand what happened. >>>>>> Any ideas please folks ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Stephen Chape >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>>> Archives - >>>>>> <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>>> >>>>>> Guidelines - >>>>>> <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>>> >>>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>>> >>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Stephen Chape >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>> Archives - >>>> <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>> >>>> Guidelines - >>>> <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>> >>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>> >>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >> >> >> Regards, >> Stephen Chape >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> Regards, Stephen Chape
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