Hi Daniel. That was a strange capacity notation. But that is what it told me !
> On 1 Dec 2017, at 6:12 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: > > I have a huge amount of Movies on my Media Entertainment Server and I keep > extra Backup copies of these movies on Thumb Drives as well as a dedicated > backup external drive. > > I have 128GB MS-DOS (FAT32) which I copy my movies that are under 4GB. > I have numerous probably around 100 just under 4GB size on this Thumb Drive. > > And I have another 128GB exFAT which holds my movies that are over 4GB file > size > > Stephen I would not have converted the .m4v > It sounds like the .mov conversion could be corrupted. > > Cheers > Ronni > Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus > >> On 1 Dec 2017, at 5:36 pm, Daniel Kerr <wa...@macwizardry.com.au> wrote: >> >> That’s a very interesting drive Stephen,…lol >> >> It’s Capacity is 16GB yet available space is 21GB,…lol. >> Is that little the Doctor Who Tardis where the space inside is much larger >> then the actual space? hehe. >> (I’d like some of those then, if I can get a 16GB drive but put 21GB worth >> of data on it,…hehe). >> >> Reminds me years ago when I came across a faulty 500GB drive (which was the >> “top of the range” back then),…and a file on the drive told me it was 2TB’s >> in size,…well before we’d even heard of 2TB drives! lol (they didn’t exist >> then). Needles to say,…the drive was faulty,…hehe. >> >> Certainly a very strange and weird issue there,….makes me think I’ll have to >> try that tonight when I get home and see if I can get a 2.5GB file onto my >> Thumb Drives and see what it reports,…can’t recall as haven’t done that for >> a while,…..hehe. >> >> Kind regards >> Daniel >> >> Sent from my iPhone 7 >> >> --- >> Daniel Kerr >> MacWizardry >> >> Phone: 0414 795 960 >> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >> >> >> **For everything Apple** >> >> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and >> as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of >> MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of >> warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any >> information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that >> permission by the author be requested. >> >>> On 1 Dec 2017, at 5:27 pm, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ronnie. >>> >>> Initially my friend came to me with a Video taken on her iPhone (and still >>> on her iPhone) >>> She did not know how to get it from her iPhone to a Thumb Drive. >>> She had tried downloading to her PC but could not achieve that. >>> >>> So another friend of hers (also Windows) managed to download it to their PC. >>> But the Video would not play. >>> When her friend tried to copy to a Thumb Drive it would not copy. >>> >>> Up till now this all sounded like a typical Windows drama to me. >>> The very reason why I use Mac. >>> >>> In plugged her iPhone into my iMac and dowloaded the Video file to Photos >>> (no problem). >>> The resulting file on my desktop was .m4v (I think from memory). >>> So I used Toast Titanium to convert to a .mov file. >>> >>> “Wow” I thought. “Doing fine here”. >>> The I tried to copy to her 8GB USB Thumb Drive. >>> Could not copy because “the file is too big” >>> It is 2.3GB for goodness sake, so no logic to this. >>> Checked the Thumb Drive for any other files. Nope. Nothing there. >>> >>> So I thought “OK her Thumb Drive is buggered. >>> I insert my 16GB Thumb Drive …. same scenario ! >>> I insert my 32GB Thumb Drive …. same scenario ! >>> This is all very strange because I am certain I have used my TD’s for many >>> videos before. >>> Surely they were not all under 2GB. >>> >>> Anyway I just inserted my 16GB TD to get details. >>> Kind: Volume >>> Format: MS-DOS(FAT32) >>> Capacity: 16 GB >>> Available: 21.07 GB (5.07 GB purgeable) >>> Used: 2.6 MB on disk >>> Sharing & Permissions: you have custom access >>> >>>> On 1 Dec 2017, at 4:15 pm, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Neil, >>>> >>>> We need more information about Stephen’s Thumb Drive and the movie file >>>> he is trying to copy to the thumb drive. >>>> What format is the Thumb Drive? - whether there is ‘trash’ still on the >>>> Thumb Drive taking up room - what is the Video file extension .mov .wmv >>>> .mp4? >>>> >>>> Stephen: Connect the Thumb Drive to your Mac - then select it on your >>>> Desktop (highlight it) - Go to File > Get Info. >>>> The resulting Window will show Kind -Format - Capacity - Available - & >>>> Used. >>>> And at the bottom under Sharing & Permissions do you have Privilege ‘Read >>>> & Write’ >>>> and ‘Ignore ownership on this volume’. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ronni >>>> >>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) >>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz >>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM >>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage >>>> >>>> macOS High Sierra 10.13.1 >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 1 Dec 2017, at 5:31 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Folks, >>>>> >>>>> Just adding my chart on formats & size limits. >>>>> FAT32 (File Allocation Table) >>>>> • Read/Write FAT32 from both native Windows and native Mac OS X. >>>>> • Maximum file size: 4GB. >>>>> • Maximum volume size: 2TB >>>>> exFAT (FAT64) >>>>> • Supported in Mac OS X only in 10.6.5 or later. >>>>> • exFAT partitions created with OS X 10.6.5 are inaccessible from >>>>> Windows 7 >>>>> • Not all Windows versions support exFAT. See disadvantages. >>>>> • exFAT (Extended File Allocation Table) >>>>> • Maximum file size: 16 EiB >>>>> • Maximum volume size: 64 ZiB >>>>> NTFS (Windows NT File System) >>>>> • Read/Write NTFS from native Windows. >>>>> • Read only NTFS from native Mac OS X >>>>> • To Read/Write/Format NTFS from Mac OS X: Install NTFS-3G for Mac OS X >>>>> (free) >>>>> • Some have reported problems using Tuxera (approx 33USD). >>>>> • Native NTFS support can be enabled in Snow Leopard, but is not >>>>> advisable, due to instability. >>>>> • Maximum file size: 16 TB >>>>> • Maximum volume size: 256TB >>>>> HFS+ (Hierarchical File System, a.k.a. Mac OS Extended) >>>>> • Read/Write HFS+ from native Mac OS X >>>>> • Required for Time Machine or Carbon Copy Cloner backups of Mac >>>>> internal hard drive. >>>>> • To Read/Write HFS+ from Windows, Install MacDrive >>>>> • To Read HFS+ (but not Write) from Windows, Install HFSExplorer >>>>> • Maximum file size: 8EiB >>>>> • Maximum volume size: 8EiB >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ronni >>>>> >>>>> Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:54 pm, Daniel Kerr <wa...@macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Are yes,…sorry, my bad. Forgot you’d said it was over 2GB. (Sorry I got >>>>>> sidetracked on talking about the Trash,…lol) - I may have misread the >>>>>> email in passing. Ooops..sorry. Too long a day (week),…lol. >>>>>> If ti’s going to a Windoze user and they have a fairly recent Windows >>>>>> system then you should be ok with exFAT in that case. >>>>>> >>>>>> The other way to do it if you have something like Dropbox or OneDrive or >>>>>> similar, would be to put it in there (as long as you have more then 4GB >>>>>> storage space) and then email them a link for them to download it from. >>>>>> I use that when moving files too big to email. :) >>>>>> Or similar ways like that too. But yes exFAT should be fine. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>> Daniel >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>>> MacWizardry >>>>>> >>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> **For everything Apple** >>>>>> >>>>>> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion >>>>>> and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of >>>>>> MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form >>>>>> of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any >>>>>> information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, >>>>>> that permission by the author be requested. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:45 pm, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Daniel. >>>>>>> Thank you for your extensive information. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It seems that the issue with MS-DOS (Fat 32) is that it cannot store >>>>>>> files above 2GB in size. >>>>>>> The video file I wanted to store is 2.3GB. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Perhaps Mac OS Journaled does not have this restriction ? >>>>>>> But that is an issue if it is to be used by a Windoze user. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:07 pm, Daniel Kerr <wa...@macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Stephen and all,…. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just a few other things that can affect this as well. >>>>>>>> I’ll try explain it as best as possible. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With a Thumb Drive, if you have any items on it, and these get put >>>>>>>> into the “Trash”, they will stay there. Unless the Trash is “emptied” >>>>>>>> then although the Thumb Drive “appears empty” the items will still >>>>>>>> take up space as they’re sitting in the drive. >>>>>>>> A USB stick has it’s own “Trash”. And your User account (it when you >>>>>>>> have the computer on), also has it’s “own” Trash. >>>>>>>> Though they can appear to be “one and the same” they are actually >>>>>>>> different. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To try and explain this another way. >>>>>>>> Let say you have nothing plugged in to your computer. You start the >>>>>>>> computer up and are just using it “as normal” (i.e. no external hard >>>>>>>> drives or USB drives plugged in). If you go and empty the Trash, >>>>>>>> you’ll get the “changed icon” of the Trash. (i.e. it will go from >>>>>>>> being a Full Trash icon to an Empty Trash icon). If you double click >>>>>>>> it to view the Trash, it will be empty. >>>>>>>> Now, if you plug in a USB drive or external drive. If it has anything >>>>>>>> still sitting in the Trash, the Trash can icon will “magically” appear >>>>>>>> to be full again. And if you view the contents, you’ll see things in >>>>>>>> there. These items would belong to the Trash. >>>>>>>> (you can also do this experiment by emptying the computer Trash. Then >>>>>>>> if you have a folder on the drive, (or create an empty folder) then >>>>>>>> drag it to the Trash. The trash icon will appear to be “full”. But >>>>>>>> once you eject the Hard Drive/USB drive, the Trash can will be empty >>>>>>>> again. Once you plug the drive back in, the Trash can will fill up >>>>>>>> again. (as it’s showing items on the external drive). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I always try and keep my Trash can empty. That way when I plug things >>>>>>>> in, I know if they have anything to “check” or are completely free of >>>>>>>> space, as the Trash will also be empty. It’s a bit easy to trash where >>>>>>>> things are “Stored” as to what trash is there as well. (and then >>>>>>>> knowing that each drive is completely free when I plug it in). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I’ve seen this happen before, where a USB stick will “appear” to be >>>>>>>> empty, but because the Trash can is “full” from things on the >>>>>>>> computer, as well as things on the external drive, you can’t tell the >>>>>>>> difference. So don’t realise the USB drive isn’t actually “empty”. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Re the formatting of it. For the “best fit” for most computers >>>>>>>> MS-DOS(FAT32) is the better one to use. ExFat is meant to be a new >>>>>>>> (better) format, but on some machines they still may not recognise it. >>>>>>>> So to get the “best for everything” I’d say go with the MSDOS(FAT32). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hope that information helps people. (It’s a bit confusing, so >>>>>>>> hopefully it makes sense,…hehe). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>>>>> MacWizardry >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **For everything Apple** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal >>>>>>>> opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the >>>>>>>> views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or >>>>>>>> warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be >>>>>>>> appreciated that if any information in this email is to be >>>>>>>> disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be >>>>>>>> requested. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 9:48 pm, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Rob. >>>>>>>>> Just tried thumb drive 16GB again. >>>>>>>>> Does appear in Finder Sidebar. >>>>>>>>> Also now appears in Disk Utility (must have a mind of its own - now >>>>>>>>> you see me, now you don’t) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Formatted in MS-DOS(Fat 32) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Other options are: >>>>>>>>> Mac OS Ext Journaled >>>>>>>>> Mac OS Ext Case sensitive Journaled >>>>>>>>> ExFat >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Which do you suggest for use on both Mac and Windows ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 8:49 pm, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Strange. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I just inserted one and it came up in disk utility. >>>>>>>>>> Another one didn't come up immediately, but did ask if I wanted to >>>>>>>>>> erase it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Does the thumb drive appear in the finder? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 30/11/17 6:45 pm, Stephen Chape wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Rob. >>>>>>>>>>> Do you know how to format a thumb drive ? >>>>>>>>>>> It does not show up in Disk Utility. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 6:38 pm, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Stephen >>>>>>>>>>>> I've experienced this a few years ago. As I recall.... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The drives are probably formatted with one of the old Windows >>>>>>>>>>>> formats - can't remember the name... FAT? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On these drives the size limit of a single file is around 2GB >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you format the drive with a modern Windows format, it will copy >>>>>>>>>>>> OK. Or in a Mac format - but then you can't share with everyone... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/11/17 6:03 pm, Stephen Chape wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Today a friend asked me to copy an MOV file onto a thumb drive >>>>>>>>>>>>> for him. >>>>>>>>>>>>> The file is 2.23GB. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It will not copy to a 8GB or a 16GB or a 32GB thumb drive because >>>>>>>>>>>>> “it is too large for the drives”. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have since burnt onto a DVD for him instead. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> But I cannot understand what happened. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas please folks ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Chape >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Stephen Chape >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> Regards, Stephen Chape
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