Hi Ronnie. Initially my friend came to me with a Video taken on her iPhone (and still on her iPhone) She did not know how to get it from her iPhone to a Thumb Drive. She had tried downloading to her PC but could not achieve that.
So another friend of hers (also Windows) managed to download it to their PC. But the Video would not play. When her friend tried to copy to a Thumb Drive it would not copy. Up till now this all sounded like a typical Windows drama to me. The very reason why I use Mac. In plugged her iPhone into my iMac and dowloaded the Video file to Photos (no problem). The resulting file on my desktop was .m4v (I think from memory). So I used Toast Titanium to convert to a .mov file. “Wow” I thought. “Doing fine here”. The I tried to copy to her 8GB USB Thumb Drive. Could not copy because “the file is too big” It is 2.3GB for goodness sake, so no logic to this. Checked the Thumb Drive for any other files. Nope. Nothing there. So I thought “OK her Thumb Drive is buggered. I insert my 16GB Thumb Drive …. same scenario ! I insert my 32GB Thumb Drive …. same scenario ! This is all very strange because I am certain I have used my TD’s for many videos before. Surely they were not all under 2GB. Anyway I just inserted my 16GB TD to get details. Kind: Volume Format: MS-DOS(FAT32) Capacity: 16 GB Available: 21.07 GB (5.07 GB purgeable) Used: 2.6 MB on disk Sharing & Permissions: you have custom access > On 1 Dec 2017, at 4:15 pm, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Neil, > > We need more information about Stephen’s Thumb Drive and the movie file he > is trying to copy to the thumb drive. > What format is the Thumb Drive? - whether there is ‘trash’ still on the > Thumb Drive taking up room - what is the Video file extension .mov .wmv .mp4? > > Stephen: Connect the Thumb Drive to your Mac - then select it on your Desktop > (highlight it) - Go to File > Get Info. > The resulting Window will show Kind -Format - Capacity - Available - & Used. > And at the bottom under Sharing & Permissions do you have Privilege ‘Read & > Write’ > and ‘Ignore ownership on this volume’. > > Cheers, > Ronni > > 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) > 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz > 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM > 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage > > macOS High Sierra 10.13.1 > > >> On 1 Dec 2017, at 5:31 am, Ronda Brown <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Hi Folks, >> >> Just adding my chart on formats & size limits. >> FAT32 (File Allocation Table) >> Read/Write FAT32 from both native Windows and native Mac OS X. >> Maximum file size: 4GB. >> Maximum volume size: 2TB >> exFAT (FAT64) >> Supported in Mac OS X only in 10.6.5 or later. >> exFAT partitions created with OS X 10.6.5 are inaccessible from Windows 7 >> Not all Windows versions support exFAT. See disadvantages >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exfat#Disadvantages>. >> exFAT (Extended File Allocation Table) <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT> >> Maximum file size: 16 EiB >> Maximum volume size: 64 ZiB >> NTFS (Windows NT File System) >> Read/Write NTFS from native Windows. >> Read only NTFS from native Mac OS X >> To Read/Write/Format NTFS from Mac OS X: Install NTFS-3G for Mac OS X >> <http://macntfs-3g.blogspot.com/2010/10/ntfs-3g-for-mac-os-x-2010102.html> >> (free) >> Some have reported problems using Tuxera >> <http://www.tuxera.com/products/tuxera-ntfs-for-mac/> (approx 33USD). >> Native NTFS support can be enabled in Snow Leopard, but is not advisable, >> due to instability. >> Maximum file size: 16 TB >> Maximum volume size: 256TB >> HFS+ (Hierarchical File System, a.k.a. Mac OS Extended) >> Read/Write HFS+ from native Mac OS X >> Required for Time Machine >> <http://www.apple.com/macosx/what-is-macosx/time-machine.html> or Carbon >> Copy Cloner <http://www.bombich.com/> backups of Mac internal hard drive. >> To Read/Write HFS+ from Windows, Install MacDrive >> <http://www.mediafour.com/products/macdrive/> >> To Read HFS+ (but not Write) from Windows, Install HFSExplorer >> <http://hem.bredband.net/catacombae/hfsx.html> >> Maximum file size: 8EiB >> Maximum volume size: 8EiB >> Cheers, >> Ronni >> >> Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >> >> >> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:54 pm, Daniel Kerr <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >>> Are yes,…sorry, my bad. Forgot you’d said it was over 2GB. (Sorry I got >>> sidetracked on talking about the Trash,…lol) - I may have misread the email >>> in passing. Ooops..sorry. Too long a day (week),…lol. >>> If ti’s going to a Windoze user and they have a fairly recent Windows >>> system then you should be ok with exFAT in that case. >>> >>> The other way to do it if you have something like Dropbox or OneDrive or >>> similar, would be to put it in there (as long as you have more then 4GB >>> storage space) and then email them a link for them to download it from. I >>> use that when moving files too big to email. :) >>> Or similar ways like that too. But yes exFAT should be fine. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> Daniel >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 >>> >>> --- >>> Daniel Kerr >>> MacWizardry >>> >>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au <http://macwizardry.com.au/>> >>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au <http://www.macwizardry.com.au/>> >>> >>> >>> **For everything Apple** >>> >>> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and >>> as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of >>> MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of >>> warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any >>> information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, >>> that permission by the author be requested. >>> >>> >>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:45 pm, Stephen Chape <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Daniel. >>>> Thank you for your extensive information. >>>> >>>> It seems that the issue with MS-DOS (Fat 32) is that it cannot store files >>>> above 2GB in size. >>>> The video file I wanted to store is 2.3GB. >>>> >>>> Perhaps Mac OS Journaled does not have this restriction ? >>>> But that is an issue if it is to be used by a Windoze user. >>>> >>>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:07 pm, Daniel Kerr <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Stephen and all,…. >>>>> >>>>> Just a few other things that can affect this as well. >>>>> I’ll try explain it as best as possible. >>>>> >>>>> With a Thumb Drive, if you have any items on it, and these get put into >>>>> the “Trash”, they will stay there. Unless the Trash is “emptied” then >>>>> although the Thumb Drive “appears empty” the items will still take up >>>>> space as they’re sitting in the drive. >>>>> A USB stick has it’s own “Trash”. And your User account (it when you have >>>>> the computer on), also has it’s “own” Trash. >>>>> Though they can appear to be “one and the same” they are actually >>>>> different. >>>>> >>>>> To try and explain this another way. >>>>> Let say you have nothing plugged in to your computer. You start the >>>>> computer up and are just using it “as normal” (i.e. no external hard >>>>> drives or USB drives plugged in). If you go and empty the Trash, you’ll >>>>> get the “changed icon” of the Trash. (i.e. it will go from being a Full >>>>> Trash icon to an Empty Trash icon). If you double click it to view the >>>>> Trash, it will be empty. >>>>> Now, if you plug in a USB drive or external drive. If it has anything >>>>> still sitting in the Trash, the Trash can icon will “magically” appear to >>>>> be full again. And if you view the contents, you’ll see things in there. >>>>> These items would belong to the Trash. >>>>> (you can also do this experiment by emptying the computer Trash. Then if >>>>> you have a folder on the drive, (or create an empty folder) then drag it >>>>> to the Trash. The trash icon will appear to be “full”. But once you eject >>>>> the Hard Drive/USB drive, the Trash can will be empty again. Once you >>>>> plug the drive back in, the Trash can will fill up again. (as it’s >>>>> showing items on the external drive). >>>>> >>>>> I always try and keep my Trash can empty. That way when I plug things in, >>>>> I know if they have anything to “check” or are completely free of space, >>>>> as the Trash will also be empty. It’s a bit easy to trash where things >>>>> are “Stored” as to what trash is there as well. (and then knowing that >>>>> each drive is completely free when I plug it in). >>>>> >>>>> I’ve seen this happen before, where a USB stick will “appear” to be >>>>> empty, but because the Trash can is “full” from things on the computer, >>>>> as well as things on the external drive, you can’t tell the difference. >>>>> So don’t realise the USB drive isn’t actually “empty”. >>>>> >>>>> Re the formatting of it. For the “best fit” for most computers >>>>> MS-DOS(FAT32) is the better one to use. ExFat is meant to be a new >>>>> (better) format, but on some machines they still may not recognise it. So >>>>> to get the “best for everything” I’d say go with the MSDOS(FAT32). >>>>> >>>>> Hope that information helps people. (It’s a bit confusing, so hopefully >>>>> it makes sense,…hehe). >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> Daniel >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>> MacWizardry >>>>> >>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au <http://macwizardry.com.au/>> >>>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au <http://www.macwizardry.com.au/>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> **For everything Apple** >>>>> >>>>> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion >>>>> and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of >>>>> MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form >>>>> of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any >>>>> information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, >>>>> that permission by the author be requested. >>>>> >>>>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 9:48 pm, Stephen Chape <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Rob. >>>>>> Just tried thumb drive 16GB again. >>>>>> Does appear in Finder Sidebar. >>>>>> Also now appears in Disk Utility (must have a mind of its own - now you >>>>>> see me, now you don’t) >>>>>> >>>>>> Formatted in MS-DOS(Fat 32) >>>>>> >>>>>> Other options are: >>>>>> Mac OS Ext Journaled >>>>>> Mac OS Ext Case sensitive Journaled >>>>>> ExFat >>>>>> >>>>>> Which do you suggest for use on both Mac and Windows ? >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 8:49 pm, Rob Phillips <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Strange. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just inserted one and it came up in disk utility. >>>>>>> Another one didn't come up immediately, but did ask if I wanted to >>>>>>> erase it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does the thumb drive appear in the finder? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 30/11/17 6:45 pm, Stephen Chape wrote: >>>>>>>> Thank you Rob. >>>>>>>> Do you know how to format a thumb drive ? >>>>>>>> It does not show up in Disk Utility. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 6:38 pm, Rob Phillips <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Stephen >>>>>>>>> I've experienced this a few years ago. As I recall.... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The drives are probably formatted with one of the old Windows formats >>>>>>>>> - can't remember the name... FAT? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On these drives the size limit of a single file is around 2GB >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you format the drive with a modern Windows format, it will copy >>>>>>>>> OK. Or in a Mac format - but then you can't share with everyone... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 30/11/17 6:03 pm, Stephen Chape wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Hi folks. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Today a friend asked me to copy an MOV file onto a thumb drive for >>>>>>>>>> him. >>>>>>>>>> The file is 2.23GB. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It will not copy to a 8GB or a 16GB or a 32GB thumb drive because >>>>>>>>>> “it is too large for the drives”. >>>>>>>>>> I have since burnt onto a DVD for him instead. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But I cannot understand what happened. >>>>>>>>>> Any ideas please folks ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> Stephen Chape > > > > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> Regards, Stephen Chape
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