Hi Peter,
I’m not receiving any WAMUG emails??
I checked the wamug archives and have copied & pasted my 1st reply I sent and 
your response to it below what I now suggest you try... if you are able to...

First, quit smcFanControl in the Menu Bar
Then as the smcFanControl application is not in Applications but in Downloads,
Delete the smcFanControl Folder in Downloads.
Then, reset the SMC

Reset the SMC
The SMC (System Management Controller) stores crucial settings, a circuit that 
deals with Power management, temperature monitoring and Fan Control, status 
lights, keyboard backlights, and a few other components. If your SMC becomes 
confused, you could experience problems like excessive fan noise, slow 
performance even though Activity Monitor doesn’t show the CPU being overtaxed, 
apps take forever to launch, batteries that don’t charge correctly, problems 
with sleep or wake, and so on.

If the battery is non-removable:
1. Choose Apple Menu > Shutdown

2. After your  ac shuts down, Press Shift-Control-Option on the Left side of 
the built-in Keyboard, then Press the power button at the same time.
Hold these keys and the Power Button for 10 seconds

3. Release all keys

4. Press the power button again to turn on your Mac.

Regards,
Ronni

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Hi Ronni, 
after confirming the backup had completed and while I was out, my son took the 
Macbook to use and eventually it stopped again, black screen and fan whirring 
at full speed. I read your previous response and did that. 
A whole bunch of unintelligible (to me) DOS like information. I scanned over it 
and didn’t see anything I could interpret usefully. In any case it took me 
eventually to the login screen. 
My suspicion, following your previous email was that the issue was the SMC Fan 
Control third party app he had installed about 2 weeks back. So once I got in, 
I located it in the Downloads folder and Moved to Trash (I think the app was 
running from the Downlaods folder and not the Applications folder). 
Then upon emptying the Trash can - but not concluding that event, the screen 
went black. I still think it was that app that was the cause of all this. Now, 
the Safe Mode (or Safe/Verbose Mode) boot attempts do nothing but start the fan 
up and screen black.
I’m leaving it for now as I am unsure what to do next.
 Regards Pete 

 > On 19 May 2018, at 2:22 pm, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Peter, 
 > > > I would have suggested you had first tried to startup in Safe Mode / 
 > Verbose > Mode. > To get some feedback about what's happening, you choose to 
 > start up while > holding down Shift, Command and V: that enters both Safe 
 > Boot and Verbose > Mode, which spits out some messages about what Safe Boot 
 > is actually trying > to do as it goes. > > Using Safe Mode can help you 
 > resolve issues that are stopping your Mac from > starting up, or any issues 
 > related to your startup disk. > If a problem you’ve been having doesn’t 
 > occur when you boot to safe mode then > it’s a safe bet it’s related to a 
 > problematic kernel extension (perhaps > faulty hardware that kernel 
 > extension accesses), or – and this is more likely > – it’s related to a 
 > third-party app or service configured to start with macOS. 

> > Cheers, > Ronni > 
 > 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) > 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo 
 > Boost to 3.3GHz > 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM > 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage 
 > > > macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 >

 Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 


> On 19 May 2018, at 11:43 am, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> HI there, this morning my sons MacBook Pro (late 2011 500GB HDD - Yosemite) 
> was not booting up after many attempts. The progress bar at boot up would not 
> commence progressing. I read a few Google tips and figured I would try 
> Recovery mode which I did then with Disk Utility did a Verify Disk test. It 
> indicated some errors and “needs repair”. I pressed the Repair Disk button 
> and left it to itself and that indicated the repair was successful. Then I 
> selected Reboot on Startup disk which also succeeded. I did need to log into 
> iCloud again which wasn’t necessarily a surprise. So it all seems fine now 
> but I wonder is this the start of a failing HDD? He has a Time Capsule Backup 
> which hadn’t backed up for a couple of weeks (my kids insist on slamming the 
> lid of the MBP shut when they walk away which interrupts the backup so it 
> doesn’t ever get a chance to complete unless I intervene!!). 
> 
> So backup is completing now. 
> 
> With my other son James a couple of years back I successfully replaced his 
> internal 500GB HDD with a 250GB SSD (supplemented with a 1TB external for 
> Photos and iTunes libraries) and upgrade to 8GB RAM Because it was very slow. 
> It all worked fine just slow. This sorted it completely and now a very fast 
> 2011 MBP.
> 
> Should I do the same for Tim’s MBP?
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Pete
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