Hi Alex

Many thanks for your email.  Bernard from the WAMUG list contacted me and gave 
me his consultant’s number and I called and made an meeting with him tomorrow.  
Wish I could have gotten hold of you beforehand.   

Hopefully I’ll get it sorted tomorrow, if not, I’ll definitely give you a call.

Much appreciate your offer

Cheers
Jewels

> On 19 Jun 2019, at 11:19 PM, Alex <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jewels,
> 
> you may be referring to me in your email below - I am/was an MYOB consultant, 
> use Macs myself, although most of my work is with the Dark Side.
> 
> It would be best if you contact me on my mobile, 0439 388 669, so we can 
> discuss this more efficiently.  (Preferably later in the day if that suits 
> you)
> 
> My opinion is that it should not be particularly difficult - the 
> functionality is pretty similar between both platforms, and I expect the 
> process will be basically the same.
> 
> Cheers,  Alex
> 
>> On 19 Jun 2019, at 2:00 pm, Julie Bedford <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Neil,
>> 
>> Many thanks for your detailed email and you have done well to accomplish 
>> what you have achieved so far.  
>> 
>> Problem for me is that I work for myself - my biggest client (who is also a 
>> friend) has a large roofing company and employs around 13 guys, so that 
>> definitely puts me in the category of having to be on this new STP system 
>> unfortunately.  I have spent hours on the phone to MYOB who flatly say there 
>> are no webinars for training for Account Edge.  They have suggested I do the 
>> PC version, but have been warned it will not help me set my Mac up for this 
>> - I guess only to gain an understanding of the system in general.  They did 
>> put me onto people who could help, but when I called them I was told they 
>> had no experience in Mac, so that was a waste of time.  
>> 
>> Every year I pay Mac for the upgrades and their support and have been told 
>> this webinar will cost $150 (for the PC training).  When I speak to anyone 
>> at MYOB, they do not appear to have any experience in MYOB.  I am most 
>> definitely not a happy person about this.
>> 
>> I have tried all the alternatives you suggest, including the MYOB community, 
>> without success.  I recall a few years ago a member of WAMUG sounded as 
>> though he had good experience in MYOB and was hoping he would pick up my 
>> initial email and respond.  Sadly, I cannot recall his name though.
>> 
>> I’ve been using MYOB for years and work alongside a firm of accountants who 
>> also use MYOB, so I cannot really move to another system.  Also, I really do 
>> not have time on my hands to learn a different system before the end of this 
>> month.
>> 
>> I guess I’ll continue hunting for someone to assist me.  Many thanks again 
>> for taking the time to reply to me Neil.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jewels
>> 
>>> On 19 Jun 2019, at 1:00 PM, Neil Houghton <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jewels,
>>> 
>>> First off - I do not have any experience of MYOB - so this is just more 
>>> general thoughts on your problem.
>>> 
>>> I run my own SMSF and do my own investing and accounting (except I need an 
>>> independent audit) but I am not an accountant (pre-retirement I was an 
>>> engineer.)
>>> 
>>> Since I try and do everything paperless, I have had to learn how to 
>>> interface with the ATO to lodge tax returns, do TBAR reporting etc (but no 
>>> payroll reporting).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So some thoughts:
>>> 
>>> MYOB Resources:
>>> I presume you have already checked out the MYOB resources on this:
>>> <http://help.myob.com.au/ae18/mac/ <http://help.myob.com.au/ae18/mac/>> 
>>> seems to be the MAC specific help centre and 
>>> <http://help.myob.com.au/ae18/mac/new_features_7.001.htm 
>>> <http://help.myob.com.au/ae18/mac/new_features_7.001.htm>> seems to cover 
>>> STP and gives step by step instructions for the MAC which SEEM quite simple 
>>> - though I realise ( and have experienced) that things often become more 
>>> complicated when you actually try and follow simple instructions ;o(
>>> I also see that the MYOB community has an STP Q&A page 
>>> <https://community.myob.com/t5/Single-Touch-Payroll-STP-Q-A/bd-p/STPQnA 
>>> <https://community.myob.com/t5/Single-Touch-Payroll-STP-Q-A/bd-p/STPQnA>> 
>>> which includes MAC related Q&As
>>> I also see that they offer online support and live chat options
>>> 
>>> STP alternatives:
>>> I have no idea how big an organisation you run or how committed you are to 
>>> MYOB. If you already have a firm commitment and a lot of time/effort 
>>> invested in your MYOB accounts then I can see that persisting with MYOB and 
>>> using it for STP is probably your preferred option.
>>> I notice that if you have four or less employees, the ATO is offering no 
>>> cost/low cost STP solutions: 
>>> <https://www.ato.gov.au/business/single-touch-payroll/in-detail/low-cost-single-touch-payroll-solutions/
>>>  
>>> <https://www.ato.gov.au/business/single-touch-payroll/in-detail/low-cost-single-touch-payroll-solutions/>>
>>> This may not be an option/choice for you but I mention it because I took a 
>>> similar path with my SMSF - my accountant died and, rather than find a new 
>>> accountant, I decided I was happy doing the accounts myself (I pretty much 
>>> did this anyway - the accountant just checked it and lodged the return). I 
>>> had decided against dedicated SMSF software (tried it, didn’t like it) and 
>>> have used a series of Excel workbooks to handle everything ( not an 
>>> approach I would suggest for most but it works for me) - so my problem was 
>>> how to actually lodge the returns myself. A similar ATO webpage for SMSF 
>>> reporting solutions led me to find a free online accounting system which 
>>> allows me to lodge the tax returns direct to the ATO. I don't use this 
>>> system for my accounting (still with Excel) I just enter my return figures 
>>> manually the lodge the return. I see that they also say that they offer STP 
>>> - see <https://www2.freeaccountingsoftware.com.au/home/more/videos 
>>> <https://www2.freeaccountingsoftware.com.au/home/more/videos>> however this 
>>> is not a recommendation - my only experience with them is to lodge my 
>>> annual SMSF return which works fine for me - I have no idea how their STP 
>>> would work for you. I have also found their systems can change from year to 
>>> year - last year I had to move from browser based to their desktop app and 
>>> install Java - and not just the standard OSX deployment - from memory Java 
>>> Runtime environment (JRE) and Java Development Kit (JDK) were required.
>>> As I say, this may have no relevance to you except to highlight that you 
>>> CAN use separate systems to lodge direct to the ATO than you use for your 
>>> day-to-day accounting.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So, I don't know if that is much help or not. Assuming you are already 
>>> happy with MYOB account edge, I would probably just work through the MYOB 
>>> MAC-specific instructions and see how easy (or not) it is. - and not be 
>>> afraid of making use of their online support/chat/community if problems 
>>> arise. However, that's just how I work ;o)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Neil
>>> -- 
>>> Neil R. Houghton
>>> Albany, Western Australia
>>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>>> Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Julie 
>>> Bedford <[email protected]>
>>> Reply-To: WAMUG <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Tuesday, 18 June 2019 at 22:04
>>> To: WAMUG <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Has Anyone Any Suggestions?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Hi all,
>>> 
>>>   I’m wondering if there is anyone in the group who could help me out.  I 
>>> desperately need some training or help with STP in MYOB AccountEdge.
>>>   The ATO has made it compulsory for me to commence using their Single 
>>> Touch Payroll (STP)  system as of 1 July.  I cannot locate anyone with some 
>>> knowledge of this in the Mac system.  I understand MYOB do hold training 
>>> seminars for PC users, but not for MAC and I have been warned these two
>>>   systems are very different.   I thought I would ask the group if they 
>>> have any ideas.
>>> 
>>>   Many thanks
>>> 
>>>   Jewels
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