No problem, let me know how you go.

Cheers,  Alex

> On 23 Jun 2019, at 4:30 pm, Julie Bedford <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Alex
> 
> Many thanks for your email.  Bernard from the WAMUG list contacted me and 
> gave me his consultant’s number and I called and made an meeting with him 
> tomorrow.  Wish I could have gotten hold of you beforehand.   
> 
> Hopefully I’ll get it sorted tomorrow, if not, I’ll definitely give you a 
> call.
> 
> Much appreciate your offer
> 
> Cheers
> Jewels
> 
>> On 19 Jun 2019, at 11:19 PM, Alex <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jewels,
>> 
>> you may be referring to me in your email below - I am/was an MYOB 
>> consultant, use Macs myself, although most of my work is with the Dark Side.
>> 
>> It would be best if you contact me on my mobile, 0439 388 669, so we can 
>> discuss this more efficiently.  (Preferably later in the day if that suits 
>> you)
>> 
>> My opinion is that it should not be particularly difficult - the 
>> functionality is pretty similar between both platforms, and I expect the 
>> process will be basically the same.
>> 
>> Cheers,  Alex
>> 
>>> On 19 Jun 2019, at 2:00 pm, Julie Bedford <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Neil,
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for your detailed email and you have done well to accomplish 
>>> what you have achieved so far.  
>>> 
>>> Problem for me is that I work for myself - my biggest client (who is also a 
>>> friend) has a large roofing company and employs around 13 guys, so that 
>>> definitely puts me in the category of having to be on this new STP system 
>>> unfortunately.  I have spent hours on the phone to MYOB who flatly say 
>>> there are no webinars for training for Account Edge.  They have suggested I 
>>> do the PC version, but have been warned it will not help me set my Mac up 
>>> for this - I guess only to gain an understanding of the system in general.  
>>> They did put me onto people who could help, but when I called them I was 
>>> told they had no experience in Mac, so that was a waste of time.  
>>> 
>>> Every year I pay Mac for the upgrades and their support and have been told 
>>> this webinar will cost $150 (for the PC training).  When I speak to anyone 
>>> at MYOB, they do not appear to have any experience in MYOB.  I am most 
>>> definitely not a happy person about this.
>>> 
>>> I have tried all the alternatives you suggest, including the MYOB 
>>> community, without success.  I recall a few years ago a member of WAMUG 
>>> sounded as though he had good experience in MYOB and was hoping he would 
>>> pick up my initial email and respond.  Sadly, I cannot recall his name 
>>> though.
>>> 
>>> I’ve been using MYOB for years and work alongside a firm of accountants who 
>>> also use MYOB, so I cannot really move to another system.  Also, I really 
>>> do not have time on my hands to learn a different system before the end of 
>>> this month.
>>> 
>>> I guess I’ll continue hunting for someone to assist me.  Many thanks again 
>>> for taking the time to reply to me Neil.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Jewels
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Jun 2019, at 1:00 PM, Neil Houghton <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Jewels,
>>>> 
>>>> First off - I do not have any experience of MYOB - so this is just more 
>>>> general thoughts on your problem.
>>>> 
>>>> I run my own SMSF and do my own investing and accounting (except I need an 
>>>> independent audit) but I am not an accountant (pre-retirement I was an 
>>>> engineer.)
>>>> 
>>>> Since I try and do everything paperless, I have had to learn how to 
>>>> interface with the ATO to lodge tax returns, do TBAR reporting etc (but no 
>>>> payroll reporting).
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So some thoughts:
>>>> 
>>>> MYOB Resources:
>>>> I presume you have already checked out the MYOB resources on this:
>>>> <http://help.myob.com.au/ae18/mac/ <http://help.myob.com.au/ae18/mac/>> 
>>>> seems to be the MAC specific help centre and 
>>>> <http://help.myob.com.au/ae18/mac/new_features_7.001.htm 
>>>> <http://help.myob.com.au/ae18/mac/new_features_7.001.htm>> seems to cover 
>>>> STP and gives step by step instructions for the MAC which SEEM quite 
>>>> simple - though I realise ( and have experienced) that things often become 
>>>> more complicated when you actually try and follow simple instructions ;o(
>>>> I also see that the MYOB community has an STP Q&A page 
>>>> <https://community.myob.com/t5/Single-Touch-Payroll-STP-Q-A/bd-p/STPQnA 
>>>> <https://community.myob.com/t5/Single-Touch-Payroll-STP-Q-A/bd-p/STPQnA>> 
>>>> which includes MAC related Q&As
>>>> I also see that they offer online support and live chat options
>>>> 
>>>> STP alternatives:
>>>> I have no idea how big an organisation you run or how committed you are to 
>>>> MYOB. If you already have a firm commitment and a lot of time/effort 
>>>> invested in your MYOB accounts then I can see that persisting with MYOB 
>>>> and using it for STP is probably your preferred option.
>>>> I notice that if you have four or less employees, the ATO is offering no 
>>>> cost/low cost STP solutions: 
>>>> <https://www.ato.gov.au/business/single-touch-payroll/in-detail/low-cost-single-touch-payroll-solutions/
>>>>  
>>>> <https://www.ato.gov.au/business/single-touch-payroll/in-detail/low-cost-single-touch-payroll-solutions/>>
>>>> This may not be an option/choice for you but I mention it because I took a 
>>>> similar path with my SMSF - my accountant died and, rather than find a new 
>>>> accountant, I decided I was happy doing the accounts myself (I pretty much 
>>>> did this anyway - the accountant just checked it and lodged the return). I 
>>>> had decided against dedicated SMSF software (tried it, didn’t like it) and 
>>>> have used a series of Excel workbooks to handle everything ( not an 
>>>> approach I would suggest for most but it works for me) - so my problem was 
>>>> how to actually lodge the returns myself. A similar ATO webpage for SMSF 
>>>> reporting solutions led me to find a free online accounting system which 
>>>> allows me to lodge the tax returns direct to the ATO. I don't use this 
>>>> system for my accounting (still with Excel) I just enter my return figures 
>>>> manually the lodge the return. I see that they also say that they offer 
>>>> STP - see <https://www2.freeaccountingsoftware.com.au/home/more/videos 
>>>> <https://www2.freeaccountingsoftware.com.au/home/more/videos>> however 
>>>> this is not a recommendation - my only experience with them is to lodge my 
>>>> annual SMSF return which works fine for me - I have no idea how their STP 
>>>> would work for you. I have also found their systems can change from year 
>>>> to year - last year I had to move from browser based to their desktop app 
>>>> and install Java - and not just the standard OSX deployment - from memory 
>>>> Java Runtime environment (JRE) and Java Development Kit (JDK) were 
>>>> required.
>>>> As I say, this may have no relevance to you except to highlight that you 
>>>> CAN use separate systems to lodge direct to the ATO than you use for your 
>>>> day-to-day accounting.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So, I don't know if that is much help or not. Assuming you are already 
>>>> happy with MYOB account edge, I would probably just work through the MYOB 
>>>> MAC-specific instructions and see how easy (or not) it is. - and not be 
>>>> afraid of making use of their online support/chat/community if problems 
>>>> arise. However, that's just how I work ;o)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Neil
>>>> -- 
>>>> Neil R. Houghton
>>>> Albany, Western Australia
>>>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>>>> Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Julie 
>>>> Bedford <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>> Reply-To: WAMUG <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, 18 June 2019 at 22:04
>>>> To: WAMUG <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>> Subject: Has Anyone Any Suggestions?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>   Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>>   I’m wondering if there is anyone in the group who could help me out.  I 
>>>> desperately need some training or help with STP in MYOB AccountEdge.
>>>>   The ATO has made it compulsory for me to commence using their Single 
>>>> Touch Payroll (STP)  system as of 1 July.  I cannot locate anyone with 
>>>> some knowledge of this in the Mac system.  I understand MYOB do hold 
>>>> training seminars for PC users, but not for MAC and I have been warned 
>>>> these two
>>>>   systems are very different.   I thought I would ask the group if they 
>>>> have any ideas.
>>>> 
>>>>   Many thanks
>>>> 
>>>>   Jewels
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