Hi Adam, Hi Peter.

Some experiences:

On my main computer I use directly connected disks for TM backups and 
Superduper clones - USB & FW respectively but since almost all my important 
stuff is also in the cloud, on either Dropbox or OneDrive, I have TM set to 
manual and just connect the drives when I need to do a backup - my thinking 
being to avoid a power surge/lightning strike taking  out both the computer AND 
connected backups!

However, I do use a NAS for TM backups of a second computer and a laptop. At 
the moment these do not get a lot of use and, again, I do the YM backups 
manually - but the TM network backup all seems to work OK.

From memory, the trickiest bit was me deciding how to setup the NAS - to RAID 
or not to RAID, setting up user permissions so different users had their own 
space on the NAS, setting up a media server (as yet unused!) and then setting 
up another space for the TM backups. However, I am known to complicate things 
and I did want the NAS to fulfil several purposes!

I would imagine that if you just wanted to use the NAS for TM purposes, and 
used a simple RAID setup, you could have a good TM solution with protection 
against a single HD failure in the NAS - still doesn't help if lightning takes 
out the whole box!

Just my musings - HTH


Cheers


Neil



-----Original Message-----
From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Adam 
Lippiatt <[email protected]>
Reply-To: WAMUG <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, 09 October 2020 at 13:01
To: WAMUG <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: TC Backups to a full disc drive

    Hi Peter
    
    Presently I run two drives connected to my iMac (one by Thunderbolt, one by 
USB) one backing up a time machine backup and one using Carbon Copy Cloner 
software to make another backup.  I swap out one of the drives from time to 
time and keep that drive at a separate location. 
    
    I have only had one hard drive fail and that was the “fusion” drive in this 
iMac. It was very very handy to have a backup to hand when the iMacs drive was 
replaced. 
    
    However, I would like to go wireless for backup,  my only attempt being 
just to add a usb connected drive to a Time Capsule (for a second backup to the 
Time Capsule itself), but I found it to be too slow. 
    
    One idea for a monthly meeting topic I would be interested in, is a home 
network guru providing a guide to running wireless backups to  multiple backup 
drives and whether that requires / is better with a NAS (which I don’t really 
understand) or via hard drives connected to a wireless router with a fast USB 
connection. 
    
    Adam
    
    
    
    > On 9 Oct 2020, at 12:26 pm, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote:
    > 
    > Hi Adam, thanks for that. What do you do instead for your backups?
    > 
    > Pete.
    > 
    >> On 9 Oct 2020, at 12:07 pm, Adam Lippiatt <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> 
    >> Hi Peter
    >> 
    >> That is good news. 
    >> 
    >> On a side note I gave up using hard drives connected via usb to the TC 
because they were very slow to transfer data. I read somewhere that this is 
because the USB port on the TC is slow speed. 
    >> 
    >> Adam
    >> 
    >>>> On 9 Oct 2020, at 12:02 pm, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> 
wrote:
    >>> 
    >>> I just thought I would add my recent awareness of this. In the 10 
years + of using the Apple Time Capsule (with 3 USB hub connected external 
drives) I hadn’t yet reached the point where any of the Macbook backups had 
reached a full state on their respective drives. My own MBP back up drive on 
the TC (a 2TB HDD) reached this state during this week and I waited anxiously 
for it to either have a hissy fit or proceed as anticipated and free up space 
by deleting oldest backup content. 
    >>> 
    >>> I am pleased to say the latter resulted - with a message popup which 
said it will delete oldest content to make way for new backup content.
    >>> 
    >>> Regards
    >>> 
    >>> Pete.
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