Thank you Neil. Are you able to say what NAS you have and, apart from RAID 
choice, whether it was easy to set up on the Mac?

Thanks 

Adam

> On 9 Oct 2020, at 2:15 pm, Neil Houghton <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Adam, Hi Peter.
> 
> Some experiences:
> 
> On my main computer I use directly connected disks for TM backups and 
> Superduper clones - USB & FW respectively but since almost all my important 
> stuff is also in the cloud, on either Dropbox or OneDrive, I have TM set to 
> manual and just connect the drives when I need to do a backup - my thinking 
> being to avoid a power surge/lightning strike taking  out both the computer 
> AND connected backups!
> 
> However, I do use a NAS for TM backups of a second computer and a laptop. At 
> the moment these do not get a lot of use and, again, I do the YM backups 
> manually - but the TM network backup all seems to work OK.
> 
> From memory, the trickiest bit was me deciding how to setup the NAS - to RAID 
> or not to RAID, setting up user permissions so different users had their own 
> space on the NAS, setting up a media server (as yet unused!) and then setting 
> up another space for the TM backups. However, I am known to complicate things 
> and I did want the NAS to fulfil several purposes!
> 
> I would imagine that if you just wanted to use the NAS for TM purposes, and 
> used a simple RAID setup, you could have a good TM solution with protection 
> against a single HD failure in the NAS - still doesn't help if lightning 
> takes out the whole box!
> 
> Just my musings - HTH
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Neil
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Adam 
> Lippiatt <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: WAMUG <[email protected]>
> Date: Friday, 09 October 2020 at 13:01
> To: WAMUG <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: TC Backups to a full disc drive
> 
>    Hi Peter
> 
>    Presently I run two drives connected to my iMac (one by Thunderbolt, one 
> by USB) one backing up a time machine backup and one using Carbon Copy Cloner 
> software to make another backup.  I swap out one of the drives from time to 
> time and keep that drive at a separate location. 
> 
>    I have only had one hard drive fail and that was the “fusion” drive in 
> this iMac. It was very very handy to have a backup to hand when the iMacs 
> drive was replaced. 
> 
>    However, I would like to go wireless for backup,  my only attempt being 
> just to add a usb connected drive to a Time Capsule (for a second backup to 
> the Time Capsule itself), but I found it to be too slow. 
> 
>    One idea for a monthly meeting topic I would be interested in, is a home 
> network guru providing a guide to running wireless backups to  multiple 
> backup drives and whether that requires / is better with a NAS (which I don’t 
> really understand) or via hard drives connected to a wireless router with a 
> fast USB connection. 
> 
>    Adam
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9 Oct 2020, at 12:26 pm, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Adam, thanks for that. What do you do instead for your backups?
>> 
>> Pete.
>> 
>>>> On 9 Oct 2020, at 12:07 pm, Adam Lippiatt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Peter
>>> 
>>> That is good news. 
>>> 
>>> On a side note I gave up using hard drives connected via usb to the TC 
>>> because they were very slow to transfer data. I read somewhere that this is 
>>> because the USB port on the TC is slow speed. 
>>> 
>>> Adam
>>> 
>>>>> On 9 Oct 2020, at 12:02 pm, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I just thought I would add my recent awareness of this. In the 10 years + 
>>>> of using the Apple Time Capsule (with 3 USB hub connected external drives) 
>>>> I hadn’t yet reached the point where any of the Macbook backups had 
>>>> reached a full state on their respective drives. My own MBP back up drive 
>>>> on the TC (a 2TB HDD) reached this state during this week and I waited 
>>>> anxiously for it to either have a hissy fit or proceed as anticipated and 
>>>> free up space by deleting oldest backup content. 
>>>> 
>>>> I am pleased to say the latter resulted - with a message popup which said 
>>>> it will delete oldest content to make way for new backup content.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> Pete.
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