Our app works fine, maybe because it's so old school, who knows! ;-> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Paul Rogers <paul.rog...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> > im guessing many developers would hope for: > 1 set of html pages, works on mac or linux firefox and windows IE > > ;-) > > Its really hard to do cross browser web apps well, and there are > usually many more developers than testers, so dont be too disappointed > you havent got cross browser/platform test software just yet. > > Paul > > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Lisa Crispin <lisa.cris...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > My hope was: 1 set of scripts, different runtime parameters, works on mac > or > > linux firefox and windows IE. > > > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Paul Rogers <paul.rog...@shaw.ca> > wrote: > >> > >> I think applescript will do it on macs, but its another variable into > >> the regression mix. > >> > >> Paul > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Bret Pettichord <b...@pettichord.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > Maybe someone else knows how to handle this on Macs. Like I've said > >> > before, i've never needed to work with these dialogs before for any of > >> > my clients, so i've never taken much time to research the > possibilities. > >> > > >> > Bret > >> > > >> > Lisa Crispin wrote: > >> >> Thanks, Bret. I was hoping to make it work with Firefox on the mac, > >> >> actually. But it sounds like that's a non starter. > >> >> > >> >> I will pursue these issues more with my team! > >> >> thanks > >> >> Lisa > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Bret Pettichord < > b...@pettichord.com > >> >> <mailto:b...@pettichord.com>> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Lisa, > >> >> > >> >> The problem with your code is that it is specific to both Windows > >> >> and > >> >> IE. Making it work with Firefox on Windows is a medium sized > >> >> problem, > >> >> but it still wouldn't help your developers with their macs. Off > >> >> hand, I > >> >> wouldn't know how to start on getting this work on other > platforms. > >> >> > >> >> And yes, these kinds of dialogs are somewhat weird. Few apps use > >> >> them > >> >> today, they are considered poor design. Nowadays developers get > >> >> the same > >> >> effect using "lighboxes" which end up being modal according the > >> >> strict > >> >> definition of "modal", but the look better. And they are fairly > >> >> easy to > >> >> handle with Watir on both IE and Firefox (on Windows and Macs). > >> >> > >> >> Bret > >> >> > >> >> Lisa Crispin wrote: > >> >> > To clarify - our Watir scripts handle our modal dialogs in IE > >> >> just > >> >> > fine. For example: > >> >> > def click_modal_button(ie, type='OK', sleep_time=6, timeout=20) > >> >> > hwnd = ie.enabled_popup(sleep_time) > >> >> > if (hwnd) > >> >> > w = WinClicker.new > >> >> > w.clickWindowsButton_hwnd( hwnd, "#{type}") > >> >> > w=nil > >> >> > end > >> >> > end > >> >> > > >> >> > I'm looking for affirmation that we will never be able to get > >> >> these > >> >> > scripts to work with modal dialogs in Firefox unless the test > >> >> > automation fairy turns me into some better kind of programmer > and > >> >> I > >> >> > can add this functionality to Watir myself. > >> >> > > >> >> > I'm puzzled though - are modal dialogs weird? Do most apps not > >> >> use > >> >> > them? What do you use instead? > >> >> > thanks > >> >> > Lisa > >> >> > > >> >> > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Paul Rogers > >> >> <paul.rog...@shaw.ca <mailto:paul.rog...@shaw.ca> > >> >> > <mailto:paul.rog...@shaw.ca <mailto:paul.rog...@shaw.ca>>> > wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ok, modal dialogs are a different beast entirely. > >> >> > > >> >> > I dont have a need for dialog support right now, and am > >> >> working on > >> >> > drag and drop support in watir. > >> >> > > >> >> > If you are only require ing this on windows, you might want > >> >> to look > >> >> > into autoit - if you want cros platform, no idea. > >> >> > > >> >> > Paul > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Lisa Crispin > >> >> > <lisa.cris...@gmail.com <mailto:lisa.cris...@gmail.com> > >> >> <mailto:lisa.cris...@gmail.com <mailto:lisa.cris...@gmail.com>>> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > > I guess I mean regular js pop up boxes. A modal dialog > >> >> window > >> >> > that pops up > >> >> > > and you have to click "ok" to keep going. They look the > >> >> same in > >> >> > firefox as > >> >> > > in IE. > >> >> > > Lisa > >> >> > > > >> >> > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Paul Rogers > >> >> > <paul.rog...@shaw.ca <mailto:paul.rog...@shaw.ca> > >> >> <mailto:paul.rog...@shaw.ca <mailto:paul.rog...@shaw.ca>>> > wrote: > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> what do you use in Firefox for the modaldialogs? > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> or do you mean regular js pop up boxes? > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> Paul > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Lisa Crispin > >> >> > <lisa.cris...@gmail.com <mailto:lisa.cris...@gmail.com> > >> >> <mailto:lisa.cris...@gmail.com <mailto:lisa.cris...@gmail.com>>> > >> >> > >> wrote: > >> >> > >> > Hi, I hope this isn't too annoying of a question. I'm > >> >> just > >> >> > trying to > >> >> > >> > decide > >> >> > >> > our next steps wrt Watir and our test automation. I > just > >> >> > thought I'd > >> >> > >> > double > >> >> > >> > check on what I think I know already. > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > I spent the last several weeks getting our Watir > suites > >> >> > working with v. > >> >> > >> > 1.6.2 and Vista. I finally beat them into submission, > >> >> and I'm > >> >> > exhausted. > >> >> > >> > (This is not a reflection on Watir, but probably on > the > >> >> > design of our > >> >> > >> > scripts, and definitely on my lack of expertise). > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > My ultimate goal was to get these scripts working with > >> >> > Firefox also, and > >> >> > >> > I > >> >> > >> > had some hope when I first read about 1.6.2 that this > >> >> would > >> >> > be possible. > >> >> > >> > However, I recall that Bret replied to one of my > emails > >> >> > relating to > >> >> > >> > dealing > >> >> > >> > with modal dialogs this way: > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > I'm saying that I do not have a plan on how to support > >> >> modal > >> >> > dialog > >> >> > >> > testing that will work with both IE and Firefox, and > as > >> >> far > >> >> > as I know, > >> >> > >> > no one else is working on this. > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > I'm wondering if this means we should abandon all hope > >> >> of > >> >> > ever being > >> >> > >> > able to > >> >> > >> > run our scripts against Firefox (which would make them > >> >> a lot > >> >> > easier to > >> >> > >> > integrate with our build process, as well as easier > for > >> >> the > >> >> > developers > >> >> > >> > who > >> >> > >> > all use Macs to run them to help with their own > >> >> testing)? > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > The developers could run the scripts on their > Parallels > >> >> or > >> >> > VMWare, but > >> >> > >> > the > >> >> > >> > scripts run very slowly there for some reason. Should > we > >> >> be > >> >> > thinking > >> >> > >> > about > >> >> > >> > migrating to a different browser driver if we want to > >> >> have > >> >> > scripts that > >> >> > >> > everyone can use to help with testing? We have good > >> >> tools for our > >> >> > >> > automated > >> >> > >> > regression tests, and I guess we could adapt those > tests > >> >> to > >> >> > do the same > >> >> > >> > purpose of Watir, it just happened that it was the > Watir > >> >> > scripts that > >> >> > >> > got > >> >> > >> > all the good flexibility that make them handy for > >> >> setting up test > >> >> > >> > scenarios. > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > Do other people have automated scripts to help with > >> >> > exploratory testing > >> >> > >> > and > >> >> > >> > manual testing, and if so, what tools do you use for > >> >> that? Or > >> >> > are other > >> >> > >> > people just luckier and don't have modal dialogs to > >> >> deal with? > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > Thanks, > >> >> > >> > Lisa > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > -- > >> >> > > Lisa Crispin > >> >> > > Co-author with Janet Gregory, _Agile Testing: A Practical > >> >> Guide > >> >> > for Testers > >> >> > > and Agile Teams_ (Addison-Wesley 2009) > >> >> > > http://lisacrispin.com > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Lisa Crispin > >> >> > Co-author with Janet Gregory, _Agile Testing: A Practical Guide > >> >> for > >> >> > Testers and Agile Teams_ (Addison-Wesley 2009) > >> >> > http://lisacrispin.com > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Lisa Crispin > >> >> Co-author with Janet Gregory, _Agile Testing: A Practical Guide for > >> >> Testers and Agile Teams_ (Addison-Wesley 2009) > >> >> http://lisacrispin.com > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Lisa Crispin > > Co-author with Janet Gregory, _Agile Testing: A Practical Guide for > Testers > > and Agile Teams_ (Addison-Wesley 2009) > > http://lisacrispin.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Lisa Crispin Co-author with Janet Gregory, _Agile Testing: A Practical Guide for Testers and Agile Teams_ (Addison-Wesley 2009) http://lisacrispin.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Watir General" group. 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