I think we have reached a consensus on the clean check in approach.  We should 
be able to mention that we have decided on the approach in the report.  Should 
we also set a target date for doing the migration?  I am more than happy to do 
the migration.  I think we should give ourselves 2 weeks to actually move the 
code over, just to be safe.  This way we can discuss any organization or 
structural issues that may come up.

If we have a method and a date, then I think we have a good plan to put in the 
board report.

~Michael


On Sep 12, 2011, at 2:58 PM, Upayavira wrote:

> 
> 
> On Monday, September 12, 2011 1:12 PM, "Jasper Horn"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Upayavira wrote:
>>> Right, the source code is the project's most valuable possession. The
>>> ASF as a charitable organisation exists to produce software, therefore
>>> it must be in control of its main asset, the asset it exists to create!
>> 
>> Talk about "control", "possessions" and "assets" doesn't sound much
>> like Open Source to me...
> 
> All software is owned (with the exception of public domain). Open source
> software makes strong use of copyright law, which is all about
> 'ownership'. Open source isn't about ownership, it is about licensing.
> Apache 'owns' the code (actually, owns the copyright on the collection,
> that is made up of individual parts which are owned by the respective
> authors), but then, in keeping with its non-profit mission, it makes
> that code available with a very liberal license to anyone who wants to
> use it.
> 
> As a part of that, people have come to trust Apache software, and that
> needs some protecting - making sure that we keep to an approach that is
> worthy of that trust. So yes, Apache does protect its code. Apache does
> protect its trademarks. It is all Apache exists for. It protects its
> code and the methods used to create it so that it *can* make it
> available to the public, for no charge.
> 
>>> There's scope to host code on git on Apache infrastructure, but that
>>> requires volunteers to assist with a deployment.
>> 
>> What would need to be done?
> 
> You can join the [email protected] mailing list and ask there. I'm
> not so sure about all the details. But bear in mind that the kind of
> install that Apache needs is more substantial than most. It needs a
> workflow that effectively tracks code's origins (SVN does this well,
> with git, as I understand it, there are ways to work around this). But,
> to be honest, I'm not sure what the current road blocks are other than
> volunteer time.
> 
> Upayavira

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