> > Also, don't assume you need to be a committer to vote. I thought I had to be. So can any member of the community vote? How much do I need to know about the code to submit a vote? For instance, I do not know much about how federation works behind-the-scenes, but I can give my opinion on the UX...
—Zachary Yaro On 13 September 2013 14:00, Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote: > Bruno, > > You are kinda right, and kinda not :-) > > I guess the thing is, it is perhaps best to say that this release > *ISN'T* about code, it is about everything else. > > And that everything else includes licensing, but also includes the > communities ability to self manage. > > Therefore, I'd suggest that everyone review the release as best they > can, from both a licensing and a code perspective. You can state in your > vote what you checked and what you didn't. All you are stating is that > you checked to the best of your abilities. Over time, I hope we'll all > get better at knowing what to look for. That's why we pass the release > vote on to the Incubator PMC - to have folks more experienced also give > it a once-over, so that we don't yet need to worry too much about > knowing what we are doing. > > Also, don't assume you need to be a committer to vote. I'd love to be > able to forward this vote to the incubator PMC saying we had 15 +1 votes > :-) > > Upayavira > > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013, at 06:13 PM, Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak) wrote: > > I was under the (maybe incorrect) impression that these releases are not > > focused on the code per se, but rather on getting the release process > > right: solve copyright and licensing issues, correct packaging of third > > party libraries, and similar issues. > > If that assumption is correct, at the moment I can not be of much help; > > Ali > > and veteran Apache members know heaps more than I do, so I wouldn't be > > able > > to provide a *meaningful* vote without first carefully studying the > > Apache > > requisites. > > > > However, if code is (very) relevant, I may have time to test it later > > this > > weekend. (holidays, real life issues, and three hard disks failing in > > almost-consecutive days, have been stopping me from testing the RC). > > > > For the record, I've tested Ali's federation patches in the past, since > > most of them had been in his github repo for weeks already: they do > > improve > > the stability, and is a very nice and welcome improvement over the > > previous > > status of wiab federation. Only for that, I'd provide a +1 vote. Though > > as > > I mentioned, I have not really tested those patches in the exact form as > > they are included in the latest RC4. > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Christian Grobmeier > > <grobme...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > > > > Am 12.09.13 20:35, schrieb Ali Lown: > > > > It seems nobody else is able to give feedback at this point. > > > > Christian raised some things that are worth doing, so I may as well > > > > start again with RC5, which I will push up in a few weeks time. [It > is > > > > a bit too busy for me ATM.] > > > > > > > > Hopefully, by being a bit later, people won't be on holiday, so will > > > > be able to review it. :P > > > I would say save the time for now. > > > > > > It has been 2 weeks time for voting. This project has seen messages. > > > It's september, not mid of august. > > > We got 1 (!) community vote. Vincente mentioned he is away (thats fine) > > > and John is not so much into gory technical details (accepted so far). > > > > > > But where were the others? Is it really holidays which prevents the > > > vote? Do we ALL have holidays at the same time? > > > > > > Before we move on with a new RC, i would like to know from the people > > > listed here: > > > http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#wave > > > why they didn't vote.** > > > > > > Was it really holidays? No interest? No time? > > > > > > It has been *a lot* of work for Ali to deal with the ASF release > > > procedures and kick out multiple RCs. It would be worth to know if he > > > should continue and if there will be any voters in the future. If there > > > is nobody who is willing to open a zip file, look into it and send out > a > > > +1, then its really alarming. It took me 30 minutes or so to check the > > > release. This is not so much. > > > > > > I have hoped the excitement in the project after John and a few others > > > appeared was so big that we would have managed to get a new release out > > > for review. If others, maybe Incubator Shepherds* look at this project > > > now, they would think: no community. > > > > > > Please let me - us - know what you who are on the list above prevented > > > to vote**. > > > > > > Cheers*** > > > Christian > > > > > > * Incubator Shepherds are Incubator PMC people, who look independently > > > from the mentor on the activity of the project and provide a second > > > insight for the report > > > ** Of course I don't want you to speak out anything which should be > kept > > > private - remember this is a public list. I just want to know: is there > > > a realistic chance that we ever get more than 3 votes? 3 are required > to > > > get it out, but given the huge list of committers we should get more > votes. > > > *** I am not a native speaker - and I hope my email doesn't sound to > > > angry. I am not. I would be dissappointed if it finally turns out that > > > we have lost the energy and steam of the past days > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards/Saludos, > > Bruno Gonzalez > > > > http://www.stenyak.com | stenyak @ irc://irc.freenode.net >
