[I don't know what happened to this - I sent it out two hours
ago and, though Eudora showed it as being sent without a
problem, it never showed up on the list!  So, here goes another
try. -Tom]

Deb, I didn't mean to upset you.  I don't get disconnected "every
5 minutes" - it only happens after 5 minutes of *inactivity*.

If I am in an edit, upload, check cycle, I usually make small
changes that take less than 5 minutes and am able to cycle many
times without being disconnected.  If I need to make some time-
consuming changes, though, I simply minumize Windows Commander
until I've finished the changes and then reconnect to continue
the cycle - no big annoyance.  I used to get aggravated at it
when I first began designing, but once I realized that nearly
all sites have that limit, I accepted it and worked around it.

You mentioned 5-10 seconds for reconnect as many as 50 times in
an 8 hour period.  Worst case at 10 seconds times 50 reconnects
works out to 500 seconds, or just over 8 minutes total time for
reconnects over an 8 hour period.  I wish that were *all* of my
time that got wasted over 8 hours!<G>  What I wouldn't give to
have your cable modem connection! :)

BTW, one of my 'tricks' I use to keep my session open - when I
realize that I'm approaching my time limit, I simply click on a
different folder on my site for a listing.  Any FTP command will
reset the timer.

Also, I've *never* been timed out during a long upload or
download - only when the session is sitting idle.  I've downloaded
entire sites that, on my dialup, took over an hour without being
disconnected.

Another observation: how does one 'ping' an FTP session?  If I
ping mydomain.com, that has nothing to do with the FTP session.
Pinging ftp.myhost.com only pings the *public* ftp site - not the
one I use for uploading/downloading site files.

I hope you come to some closure with this - it's not really that
annoying if it is expected and worked with.

Cheers,
Tom

At 12:31 PM 09/04/2002 -0500, Deb wrote:
This just makes no sense at all.  I can't be the only web designer
>in the world that keeps their connections open when working, can I?
>Does everyone else open the connection, upload, shut down, check
>pages, fix pages, open the connection, upload, shut down, check
>pages, fix pages, open the connection ..... etc ???????????  Or does
>everyone just put up with having to reconnect every 5 minutes?  I'm
>dead serious here, I'd really like to know how people handle this,
>maybe I'm missing something that works better than what I do.
>
>How do they expect people to work when the darn thing is shutting
>down every 5 minutes?  That's hardly enough time to upload a few
>files and check the pages in a couple browsers.
>
>I would say it takes
>maybe 5-10 seconds to reconnect each time, but you multiply that
>by say 50 times in about 8 hours and it gets not only time consuming
>but FRUSTRATING AT ALL GET-OUT!!!
>
>I have cable modem to help
>me save time, this slow crap is working against my cable modem speed
>and I may as well use a dialup then, where a ping will work!
>
>I should think a more
>reasonable time would be minimum of 20 minutes and an hour would
>be even better.
>
>There are firewalls and antivirus programs out there
>for protection. No, they're not foolproof, I understand, but .. oh what's
>the use?  I'm sick to death of the whole thing.  Apparently I'm the only
>person in the world who this bothers and who doesn't understand
>why one is so limited in this fashion, otherwise enough complaints
>would have been given to these server people and they'd do something
>to fix this to a more reasonable time frame.
>
>Thanks to all who tried to help or give input :)
>
>Deb
>
>
>
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