Cheryl, Yes, I thought it had been discussed before that these menus work only with javascript. I think that this will be turned off more and more in IE, so I will have to think up something that doesn't need it. I have one or two thoughts for that; and I'll check on what exactly pop-up blockers block!
Good luck with that site; nice design, though the rust-red is slightly overpowering for my taste. Probably a quarter inch or so off the left hand column would be more restful. And, just a mini-problem which I am sure you'd want to correct: Except for 'volunteering' on the blue-backed links the cursor is in word processing shape. (237 pages! Paid or not paid I tremble at the thought) Joseph > I use one I'm on a site that isn't finished yet that also uses nested lists > and expands/contracts based on about 6 lines (if I recall correctly) of > javascript. With javascript disabled you get a nested list, with it you get > an expanding/collapsing menu. (note: I haven't gotten around to changing the > sections so that the one you are in will be expanded so it returns to the > closed state if you have javascript enabled until when you change pages, > slightly annoying and will be fixed when I get back to working on that site > hopefully soon since its official launch date is Aug 5). > > Url is http://westupto.org > > If you want a dom based solution that uses javascript only for an IE bug > take a look at suckerfish, son of suckerfish and some it its other > variations. Google will find a bunch of them. > > Better get back to my "little" project that was supposed to be just a matter > of recreating a "missing" Dreamweaver template. Only to find 237 pages with > less than half of them using the missing template, sometimes as many as 7 > versions of the same page (many of them in use but linked from different > parts of the site) and somewhere between 4 & 6 different people who have > worked on it in the past with at least 2 versions of Dreamweaver, FrontPage, > hand coding and something I can't identify but created some really nasty > complex code. Which means each page must be cleaned by hand of all the font > tags, nested, nested tables. Thankfully after 10 hours the majority of the > pages are template ready but I still need to figure out which pages are > truly orphans and get to only ONE version of things like the contact form > (exactly the same form but with 6 different names). > > Oh well, it is billable time. > > > Cheryl D. Wise > Certified Professional Web Developer > MS-MVP-FrontPage > www.wiserways.com > mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 713.353.0139 Office > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Caudill > > What browsers does this script work in? What browsers does it not work in? > Why would a JavaScript pop up menu "pop up" without JS enabled? > Button, button, who's got the button? > > okay... you can deliver something to the browser that is usable (nested, > unordered lists), then augment it with JS wizardry afterward (hide nested > lists, displaying on mouseover of their containing list item)... > > If you're looking for a whiz-bang, do-something-cool-in-real-time menu, > you're going to have to do that on the client side (PHP, being server > scripting would be like using a lathe to make a neon sign) and there's no > better tool for that than JavaScript. The important thing to strive for is > separation of behavior(the pop up) from structure, that way non-js browsers > get *something* and then good little JS enabled browsers get the mondo > spiffy version. > > A friend and I have adapted the gazingus drop-down menu[1] script a bit to > support the normal hover and drop-down behavior rather than the click, then > drop-down way it was originally coded... it achieves what I think you're > getting at. The nav links still show up in non-js browsers and are purty in > js browsers. You can find it over at his site in the development section > [2]. > ____ � The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM � ____ To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub ________________ http://www.wdvl.com _______________________ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
