Ivan, i finished this and was literally laughing out loud .. not just
theLOL symbol!
At 1:58 AM +0200 9/11/98, Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote:
>On 10 Sep 98, at 11:10, Gill, Kathy wrote:
>> Plus -- I *like* the fact that I can pick colors, font sizes, etc. that
>> work for **my eyeballs** -- moving to a PS kinda world takes this end user
>> power away.
>
>Do you spend so much time going into
>Option/Preferences/Apparence/Font/Whatever/you're near/be
>patient/don't worry/you're in the right direction/size ????
umm.m. i do it once.
>Unfortunately I havent seen many example of such useful way to
>use client side scripting. That's why I seldom surf with JavaScript
>enabled.
i have js turned on but java turned off... particularly on the mac since
it's not really write once read everywhere yet and nn/mac seems to crash
more than nn/wintel.
>> > > > Do you think that it's "moral" to follow the way of flashing
>> > idiots
>> > > > sites?
>> > > Don't know about "moral" but would dub it "stupid."
>
>> > Mumble well sometimes flashing means without conents and
>> > attracting, without content and attracting, as the snake with Eve.
>
>> <chuckle>
>
>Have I offended your grrl side? :-)
heck,no!
>
>> > > good point -- info about why I should buy one toothpaste
>> > > (metaphorically) over another.
>
>> > OK but this mean information not flashing things.
>
>> correct. but you know *I* don't like flashing things <g> ....
>
>You, but the market, the people, the other web developers...
>Will the net become a "lot of button TV"?
i'm not convinced that the web developers, in general, KNOW what hte market
likes. all the surveys etc i've seen show the average user doesn't like
senseless animation -- but site designers kowtow to cluelesss business
people who think they are "cute" or necessary or SOMETHING that i really
haven't figured out .
>This doesn't change to much the equation.
>
>Consumers are dumb => advertiser use FUD techniques => we
>have to serve NOT informative sites that need to make use of the
>unrational part of people (so lots of images, sounds etc... and few
>text/information)
can't speak for anything other than US consumer. but US consumers seem to
be suscpetible to FUD, just like IS Veeps ...so i guess i shouldn't be so
hard on IS veeps .... there are lots of psychological reasons that this
might be so .. but probably due for a differetn list than this one.
>
>> > OK, so what the use of DHTML, CSS etc...
>
>> DHTML not ready for prime time, IMO, for a "mainstream" site. CSS is
>> much closer.
>
>This doesn't change too much the perspective.
>We should have care of contents and on the way we convey
>contents not on apparence. Sometimes apparence is the same
>thing of the way we use to convey contents but much more often is
>waste of bandwidth, mess, a way to use emotions of people rather
>than their rational part to choose.
amen!
>I dont want to be apocaliptic (where is the h?) but I surf less and
>less while I use more and more the email. Is this the sign of
>something?
hmmm.. same here - if anyone else has made it this far into this mail --
what about you????
this reinforces the sense of "net" as "community" which is probably pretty
well documented with The Well (ya'll forgive my typing, i've had a couple
Tiger beers - sitting on my sofa - and it seems to have affected my
brain-to=finger synapses).
>
>> > > Agreed -- the net just highlights the fact that we are all
>> > individuals,
>> > > doesn't it? Mass market is truly abandoned ....
>
>> > Well our opinions start to diverge...
>> > I'm not scared about mass market... I'm scared about bandwith
>> > bottleneck and finding useful things in a lot of mess.
>
>> agree with both of these fears.
>
>Are you married? We are sharing too many things. :-)
hahahahahah ... too old, remember?
>I've been a surfer for a couple of year. I've discovered the net
>recently so I don't know how it was in the past but it was different
>and maybe better.
>The density of information was much more.
yes and the prettiness was less ...
>We have a great thing and I enjoy it evry day... email is great, the
>net is full of useful informations, friends, opportunities etc...
>But I really don't want toothpaste on my monitor.
and my $ is on it's not being sold online ...
kathy
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