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> ... But if it weren't for unix there would be no internet.

Obviously we have no way of knowing this, but my personal
opinion is that if it weren't for Unix, the Internet would 
have happened sooner, faster, and better.  I've been doing
Unix for a good two dozen years now, and the contrast between
it and Multics in terms of open-endedness, modifiability,
user- and programmer-friendliness, and stability has never
ceased to bother me.

In fact, I don't recall seeing Unix involved in ARPANET or
the early Internet much at all.  Most hosts were Tenex or
various Univac or IBM mainframes, and of course the IMPs
were Honeywell.  The first Unix involvement was when the
Internet assimilated Usenet, and even that was pretty much
the replacement of the UUCP base with FTP and other file
transfers.  My first ethernet machine, the Alto, couldn't
talk to Unix at all, and I don't think that the TCP/IP
support we wrote in PL/I for the Prime machine was ever
tested with Unix.  Of course, these days a significant
fraction of net machines run Unix, largely due to the
success of Sun, but Sun itself seems bent on getting rid
of it.  (You didn't think that Java was aimed only at
MS Windows, did you?)

Bob Munck
Mill Creek Systems LC

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