Rich is so eager to contradict me that he contradicts everything.
Andreas writes:
>> The sun rose this morning.
Rich replies:
>Wrong. The earth rotated.
Maybe Rich should work for Ken Starr.
>Even Microsoft doesn't think so. Read Halloween I/II in their
>entirety with Eric Raymond's annotations.
Read it again, Rich. Eric Raymond's comments are mostly annoying or
irrelevant. He's so eager to bash Microsoft that he picks at sentences, but
ignores the whole document.
Read the document and think about what it suggests as a strategy.
Why was this document written? Why was it send to Eric Raymond (and
especially him, of all people?) Why has Microsoft not bothered to demand it
removed (on basis of copyrights, etc.)? Think about that.
>>>From an end-user point of view, it doesn't matter whether the
>user interface is layered on top (as it should be) or integrated
>(a very bad idea): it matters whether or not it works reliably and
>is usable. All four of these do so.
Have you ever worked in software development?
>> Linus Thorvald has already finished the first phase; he got a job.
>
>Wrong.
He is no longer a grad student in Finland. He works here in Silicon Valley
for a company. Rich, you're wrong.
>Linus is still involved with Linux on a daily basis, and provides
>critical guidance and decision-making on the internals of the OS.
>He isn't "finished" with anything.
His primary job is not at developing Linux. Rich is wrong again.
Linus says in interviews that the Linux crowd often makes absurd
exaggerations. He distances himself from much of that.
>> Linux is in the second phase; Red Hat and other organizations
>> are taking over Linux and establishing it as a credible enterprise.
>
>Wrong.
>
>They can't take it over because the licensing terms forbid them
>from doing so. Not to mention the incredible backlash from the
>people that they depend on -- the masses of people working on the code.
Oh, c'mon. Intel, IBM, and Red Hat are distributing Linux. They are not
doing this for charity.
>> This will also drive away the volunteerism.
>
>Wrong.
Tell me, Rich, are you going to spend several hundred hours to improve Linux
and thereby improve the stock price for IBM and Intel?
>The number of people cooperating on Open Source products is increasing
>exponentially. The actions of any one company -- or even any group
>of companies -- have a null effect on that.
>
>> Netscape's browser is now open source. Yet the Microsoft memo points out
>> that Netscape developer interest has fallen very fast.
>
>Wrong.
Rich, read the Microsoft memo. It shows that developer interest at Mozilla
fell dramatically. This is quantified.
>> Is anyone going to spend dozens of hours to improve the Netscape browser?
>
>Yes.
And make Jim Clark yet richer? You're willing to work for free to make a
mega-millionaire yet richer?
Magic Johnson needs someone to mow his lawn. For free. Go for it, Rich.
>Sun will survive this nicely because they are already accomodating Linux,
>because they sell hardware, because they have layered products,
>and because they have Java.
Silicon Graphics (it was once a UNIX computer company) clung to their
workstations and their flavor of UNIX. Intel machines with Windows NT were
faster and cheaper; in two years, SGI lost 50% of their market to NT/Intel.
SGI is now an NT company, running on Intel machines.
As for Java, well... has SUN made any money on it at all? No. Are they going
to make money on it? Is there such a thing as a programming language that
has generated substantial (billions of dollars) revenues? No. SUN has Java,
but then again, it's not worth much.
Here's an interesting thought: what if the Linux crew starts a OSS version
of Java?
>> Microsoft itself points out that Linux performs better than other UNIX
>
>Wrong.
Read the document, Rich.
andreas
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