On 6 Nov 98, Michael A. Stone wrote:

> if anyone wants to debate the additional values of staged curricula and
> interaction with an instructor, please prepare arguments which take
> bubble-form testing, 450-seat lectures, and grad-student TAs who don't
> speak english into account.

Mm.  I have a B.A., and did a few post-grad courses as well that never led 
anywhere... had a prof who was pushing me to do an M.A. in history, but I 
wasn't really interested.

In terms of hard practical skills and learning that I may have acquired 
during my four years in university... well, I'm hard-pressed to recall much 
of lasting value.  I imagine most Arts undergrads would say the same.  
Honed my research skills a little, I suppose, but I was always a lad for the 
books in any case.

However.  Back in the days when I still filled out job applications and went 
to interviews, that seemingly hollow B.A. did have real value.  Though I 
never had a single would-be employer ask me for transcripts, or any 
details whatever of what I had actually studied, the simple fact of my 
having *been* to university was frequently important.  

It was, I suppose, reflective of Mike's discussion on "syntony" the other 
day; it seemed to create a crucial bond of common ground with the 
interviewer, an inference that, "Yes, I'm one of you.  Good solid middle-
class stock, know what fork to use for the pie, have sensible values, can 
sign my own name without help".  It made me one of the blue-suits, as per 
Mike's anecdote.

Whereas had I been exactly the same guy with the same clothes and the 
same articulate speech, but *without* the official piece of paper 
confirming  that I had drunk beer and gone to the occasional class for four 
years on the taxpayers' dime... well, I don't suppose the interviewers 
would have been quite so chummy.  Nor the job offers so frequently made.

I don't say it's right, but it's certainly how it was in my case.

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