On 11 Mar 99, at 7:39, Steven J. Owens wrote:

>      Normally I avoid HTML editors like the plague (*).  However, a

I used them when I first began learning html which was about the same 
time I began to learn about a windows environment.  I soon found 
textpad and perl and I use both to do all my code. I read rather than 
depend on an editor to define my possiblities (which could be a valid 
reason for using an editor).

>      The request was for a system to let the staff in a company
> "publish documents to the web" using a unified style.  I started
> to reply with a description of a database& html forms system that

Umm.. yes... I have had similar ... arguments with my boss.  The boss 
wants the writers to use an html editor.  I say no, let's keep data 
free.  I much prefer to flow data from databases through some 
templates to present to a user.  But as much as I like this idea ... 
it really requires a lot of forethought to implement.  Or at least I 
prefer that I do the html so that later I can write a script to 
extract the data from the markup. AND so I can at least easily modify 
it in the future.  Working with code written in a wysiwyg editor by 
someone who barely knows how to use it can easily produce a 
maintenance nightmare.

If I were to suggest that the writer use an html editor I think I 
would find one of those that I remember from long ago ... names 
escape me now .. but I am talking of one that would only help them 
use the basics -- nothing fancy.  I would prepare the templates for 
them to use: headers and footers with all the meta tags etc. in the 
header.  I would provide the style sheet.

I would like to hear how others are handling this.  Does everyone 
begin to learn to use an html editor (as opposed to html ... gee, 
don't ask anyone to learn html and something like textpad where they 
might encounter a regular expression).  Or is their a really good 
form to database to net product that is easy to install (or hard to 
install and then easy for everything else), easy to use, and scalable 
and the source code is available.  

Someone mentioned Zope the other day but  I admit that I just did not 
grasp what it was doing when I took a look.

http://www.zope.org/

I just looked again. I just really don't see what they are talking 
about. It seems like some sort of superhuman end all be all solve all 
problems sort of thing.  But it escapes me.

Peter










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