hehehe.... I'm a little (maybe more than a little...) amused at this concern with survival.. Personally, I do not think marketing is suitable without something to market...
I think experiences - e.g. web2py handling registration for PyCon2009 - these do more to "sell" and make interest than any amount of american-style "let me talk you into this, and you need it because I say so..." Blech! PyCon dojo will help (shows how easy things are); a wiki that rivals others (hint-hint: forget about selling, and think about contributing!); survey application (to sell that, sell how it's done, and how easily you can do similar things...) reddish; You get the picture. Like web2py? Find it userful? Build something you can share, and _sell_ not just that (that's nice, and self interest) --- sell _how_ it was to make it, and how it is to maintain (and extend) it. That is _real_ sales ;-) On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:02 AM, weheh <[email protected]> wrote: > > I agree that web2py must get a stronger following to ensure long-term > survival and that marketing is having a first-order effect on progress > towards achieving that goal. I strongly second the motion of using > success stories showing links to web2py sites as an effective > marketing strategy. I do not think I'm the exception in this regard. > For instance, I got sidetracked by Zope/Plone for awhile during my > search for web2py because they have links to a plethora of sites > developed with Zope/Plone. > > The biggest marketing issue with regards to web2py that I see is a > lack of consistency in look and feel in the various sub-sites that > carry critical web2py information: http://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/, > http://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/AlterEgo/default/show/101, epydocs, and > documentation in general. In general, I have found it hard to figure > out where to look to find out how to do stuff with web2py. This has > slowed down my initial development efforts and forced me to fire off > stupid questions that waste this group's time. > > I know you've all heard this before, but the biggest factor holding > back web2py today is probably the documentation. People are cheap -- > so the fact that a basic tutorial and reference manual isn't available > for free is probably a limiter for many users. In addition, the book I > bought from Lulu doesn't have hypertext links to jump around from the > index to the guts, so it's hard to read online. I had to print out all > 200+ pages to have something useful to reference. The formatting is > also a little strange with the crop marks, so the font ends up being > too small to read comfortably for older eyes. Plus, there are a few > too many spelling errors. Not to sound too critical, the doc has most > of everything that you need if you read it carefully enough. It is out > of date with regards to authentication, however, which is a critical > capability. > > Anyway, my 2 cents, for what it's worth. I did high-tech marketing for > 15 years, so I've officially had my lobotomy. > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---

