I agree with this. The new "who" and "support" pages are an attempt to
do exactly that.

Although as I have suggested in the past it, we should not just
imitate other open source projects. We should think bigger. Remember
the discussion on the "open source corporation"? There is more than
unites us here than just web2py and we need to capitalize on that.
Web2py should be a tool in our toolbox together with postgresql, linux
etc. Moreover if we "officialize" the concept a team and toolbox it
should be open (anybody can apply) but also selective (not everybody
gets in).

As I mentioned in the past I have no interest in competing with Django
or Rails. I want to compete for consulting jobs with IBM. I think we
have the people, we don't have the structure in place.

Massimo


On Mar 16, 8:23 am, Francisco Gama <[email protected]> wrote:
> One "detail" about marketing.
>
> I know for a fact that projects that appear as "created by Mr. X"
> don't trigger enterprises the same way as "created by Team X". There
> are so many cases of projects (mainly) created by a single person that
> are sold as being created by a team. This is very common and hits the
> extreme with one-guy companies that show call centers and support
> teams in the website that just don't exist.
> Companies are very conservative thinking about software. "A single guy
> could never do something better than a team", "something free can
> never be better than something paid", ...
> You don't have to be a marketing fellow to know it sounds better
> "Contact us" instead of "Contact me".
>
> Until now, I've just been talking about marketing but when I think
> about it... now getting techincal
>
> web2py amount of users and contributors already gives you enough
> critical mass to create a team. A team as in "job delegation" by
> Massimo.
> E.g.: There could be a guy to maintain documentation. There could be
> other for appliance validation and submittion, other for Artwork and
> layouts....
>
> better job done and a better life to Massimo?
>
> On Mar 16, 12:59 pm, mdipierro <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I am definitively open to changing the tag line but some comments:
>
> > web2py users have been growing, slowly but steadily and exponentially.
> > I think mainly because of word of mouth. The best way to grow web2py
> > is for you to blog about it, twit about it, etc. Tell other people
> > what you think.
>
> > It is bad that I am the only voice of web2py.
>
> > The biggest thing holding back web2py is the negative publicity coming
> > from competing frameworks who perceived web2py as a threat. There are
> > a couple of people who hate web2py and are responsible for many of the
> > negative comments under different names. Nobody really ever made a
> > substantiated attack on web2py, they usually just say something vague
> > and then get personal against me. This is usually because they worked
> > hard on something like a popular ORM or a template system or a syntax
> > highlighter and we are not using their work.
>
> > Massimo
>
> > On Mar 16, 7:15 am, Miguel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Maybe this one tagline: "Enterprise strong, made simple"
>
> > > List of suggested taglines (don't think I missed any):
> > > "Enterprise strong, made simple"
> > > "Easy to use, industrial strength"
> > > "Easy framework; enterprise ready"
>
> > > Miguel
>
> > > Markus Gritsch wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:28 AM, weheh <[email protected]> 
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > >> The fact that web2py scales to enterprise-wide apps is a huge selling
> > > >> point to the professional community. It immediately caught my
> > > >> attention because I wanted to be sure the system was able to be used
> > > >> in industrial-strength applications.
>
> > > > So maybe this tagline: "Easy to use, industrial strength"
>
> > > > Markus
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