Hmmm, not exactly.

You CAN use node for/with it, but there are also IDE plugins.
I'm using Visual Studio 2012 (trial) and it compiles-on-save automatically, 
with a side-by-side updating javascript target file view. that is being 
generated as I save.
All the material needed to make such a plugin for any other IDE is 
open-sourced, and does not NEED node.js to work at all...
It even minimizes my files for me as well (generates another *-min.js file).
I can even configure the compiler in the IDE to also auto-generate 
source-maps as it auto-compiles-on-save.
This is just another option in the options window of VS, that gets added 
when I install the "web-essentials" extension of VS.
This is a huge extension, that also provides auto-compilation of 
LESS-to-CSS files, and also minifiezes the resulting CSS files as well

In a nut-shell:

Visual Studio 2012 + TypeScript (plugin) + Web-Essentials (extension) = 
Auto-Compilation/Source-Map-Generation/Minification of 
TypeScript->JavaScript + LESS->CSS
:)
All this with ZERO dependencies and without node.js
:) :)
And I can now debug in Chrome using the original TypeScript files 
themselves, using the auto-generated-source-maps-on-save, via the "Use 
Source Maps" feature in chrome.
:) :) :)
I can also use use the LESS files in chrome, by using the "Support for 
SASS" feature.
:) :) :) :)
Adding the LivePage (auto-reload) chrome-extension rounds up the 
real-time-feedback-with-transipling experience.
:) :) :) :) :)
All the above, without web2py or node.js (!)

Here is a better video-presentation for TypeScript:
http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Anders-Hejlsberg-Introducing-TypeScript

Here is how Source-Maps work:
http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/developertools/sourcemaps/

LivePage extension:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/livepage/pilnojpmdoofaelbinaeodfpjheijkbh?hl=en

On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:12:26 PM UTC+2, Niphlod wrote:
>
> anoher node.js dependancy ^_^
>
> Il giorno mercoledì 19 dicembre 2012 15:53:45 UTC+1, Arnon Marcus ha 
> scritto:
>>
>> I'm starting to fall in love with TypeScript...
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dqZW_DqHIQ
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 1:21:33 AM UTC+2, Arnon Marcus wrote:
>>>
>>> That sounds very cool, thanks for the detailed answered, this makes my 
>>> head a little calmer now...
>>>
>>> BTW, I actually DID mean coffeCup, It refers to the python module that 
>>> does coffeeScript-to-javascript transipling.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/dsc/coffeecup
>>>
>>> Apparently, it also depends on node...
>>>
>>> Anyways, I think i'm sarting to lean more towards TypeScript anyways, 
>>> so...
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 17, 2012 2:26:38 PM UTC-8, Niphlod wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, December 17, 2012 2:50:09 PM UTC+1, Arnon Marcus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Holy shit...
>>>>>
>>>>> Where did you say you got all that info from?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> quoted the link and scanning the source code 
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>> Is this what that module needs?
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought it's just a stand-alone pythonic-module doing everything...
>>>>> Guess I was a bit optimistic...
>>>>>
>>>>> little bit too much :P
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>> What about coffeeCup?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> meaning coffeescript ? 
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>> - is it just something like "edit the less file in 
>>>>> static/less/file.less and have it recompiled as /static/css/file.css"
>>>>> Well, either that and/or sass/scss, as well as coffescript 
>>>>> transpiling, with optional minification/zipping for the resaulting 
>>>>> js/css, 
>>>>> yeah, basically that.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not that much advanced, but as long as there is a "list of 
>>>> extensions" that follow the same rule, a contrib script continuosly 
>>>> checking for changed files is not hard to do.
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>> But if there is ANY need for node.js in this kind of solution, than 
>>>>> forget it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I gave you the list of what webasset provide with python modules. I 
>>>> think the author researched a lot and resorted to external binaries only 
>>>> when needed  
>>>>
>>>> Is web2py minifying css/js scripts by default? If so, in what 
>>>>> circumstances? And since what version?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> nope. Web2py includes contrib.minify (containing jsmin and cssmin) that 
>>>> is activated by response.optimize_css and response.optimize_js . It's a 
>>>> feature I think since 1.99.7.
>>>>
>>>> Gzipping is not done within web2py. Usually that is something done only 
>>>> one-time-only before releasing to production and for that there is 
>>>> scripts/zip_static_files.py (meant to be run from shell as web2py.py -S 
>>>> yourapp -R scripts/zip_static_files.py). It creates automatically .gz 
>>>> files 
>>>> with the same mtime in order to be recognized as valid replacement by 
>>>> apache, nginx & co. Standalone web2py serves automatically gz files in the 
>>>> static folder with the same mtime without any configuration at all 
>>>> (meaning 
>>>> that a request for /app/static/js/jquery.js as long as there is a 
>>>> /app/static/js/jquery.js.gz with the same mtime will serve the gzipped one 
>>>> automatically)
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>

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