I think I have understood:
for a graphic-people point of view, it is normal  "opening" a html
file with dreamweaver and change it. Graphic-guys here wanted,
probably, "open" web2py files inside Dreamweaver, like a normal
project of Dreamweaver,  to change his graphical aspect, only that.

This is not easy to do with files taken from dynamic websites...
then...

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On Jun 29, 3:47 pm, ceej <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I would just like to say that, web2py is a python programming
> framework not a designing one and it's a lot easier to use than most.
> I can implement the greatest of design that any designer could dream
> up with ease. I do not understand when you say "the html views could
> perhaps bit more html and less python" because they are pure html/css
> when rendered and using the html helpers you can add any ids/classes
> you want which is what you need to integrate a design. (You can also
> use any other python html template plugin out there with web2py like
> genshi etc..).
>
> I've also seen other threads where people are going on about jquery
> and they want more integration/widgets for it etc... This is again
> where I would like to say web2py is a python programming framework not
> a javascript one. jQuery comes included yes but you can use any
> javascript framework with web2py you want (I use extjs as well as
> jquery), web2py has jquery included as I would like to call an example
> and I think a lot of people get confused about that for some reason.
>
> I feel if we stray to much from web2py being a "python programming
> framework" we'll loose sight of what web2py was meant to be in the
> first place which is an an "enterprise framework for agile development
> of fast,  secure  and portable database-driven web-based applications.
> Written and programmable in  Python".
>
> P.S. Thank you again Massimo for starting such a great python
> framework! :D
>
> On Jun 29, 6:18 am, "Hans Donner" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > fully agree with this.
> > However, the html views could perhaps be a bit more html and less python so 
> > most html  tools could be used to build them and without needing much 
> > conversions. As indicated, how the java tapestry framework did this is very 
> > nice and we could perhaps borrow some ideas from them.
>
> > if youre less drag&drop and more source oriented, the current way is 
> > perfect and easy to learn.
>
> > ------- Original Message -------
> > From: annet <[email protected]>
> > To: web2py Web Framework <[email protected]>
> > Sent: 29/06/2009, 10:09:26
> > Subject: [web2py:25222] Re: Web2py is not too designer friendly?
>
> > I appreciate web2py as it is. In the past I worked with Adobe GoLive,
> > NetBeans, JDeveloper and ADF and Filemaker. Beautiful software, I
> > implemented use case after use case by simply dragging and dropping
> > components and clicking my way through dialog boxes. However, the
> > moment I wanted to adjust the generated code I was overwhelmed by the
> > amount of code the software had generated in different files.
>
> > Web2py is the first framework that allows me to implement my
> > application the way I designed it, my lack of Python knowledge is the
> > limit, not the framework. I love building my own views in html, css
> > and js keeping structure, style and action separated, something none
> > of these IDE's complied with.
>
> > I hope web2py will stay as 'clean' as it is, and not become another
> > 'NetBeansese' IDE.
>
> > Annet.

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