ceej makes the right observation. Web2Py is a great backend development platform. I would also second Annet's observations that Web2Py not get all 'fuzzy' with WYSIWYG. So maybe it is time for Web2Py to think about the next step -- third party ecology. jQuery for example is great on its own. But it is fantastic with all the plug-ins that are available for it.
Thinking along those lines in concert with this thread I could see possibilities -- a) An addition to SQLForm that all it does is render out the specifics of the id and class names for the label, fields and col3 without the surrounding TABLE scaffolding to an output file. The specifics of the id, class naming is defined in a given specification (pretty much there). b) That the Web2Py developer can for any given function in a controller specify a custom html rendering. If not so specified then the default <def>.html be utilized. Maybe like return dict(data=data, html='custom.html') Web2Py changes only marginally. Using the specifications for the output file some enterprising soul could develop an third party tool to do html design work or modify an existing one. JohnMc On Jun 29, 8:47 am, ceej <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi there, > > I would just like to say that, web2py is a python programming > framework not a designing one and it's a lot easier to use than most. > I can implement the greatest of design that any designer could dream > up with ease. I do not understand when you say "the html views could > perhaps bit more html and less python" because they are pure html/css > when rendered and using the html helpers you can add any ids/classes > you want which is what you need to integrate a design. (You can also > use any other python html template plugin out there with web2py like > genshi etc..). > > I've also seen other threads where people are going on about jquery > and they want more integration/widgets for it etc... This is again > where I would like to say web2py is a python programming framework not > a javascript one. jQuery comes included yes but you can use any > javascript framework with web2py you want (I use extjs as well as > jquery), web2py has jquery included as I would like to call an example > and I think a lot of people get confused about that for some reason. > > I feel if we stray to much from web2py being a "python programming > framework" we'll loose sight of what web2py was meant to be in the > first place which is an an "enterprise framework for agile development > of fast, secure and portable database-driven web-based applications. > Written and programmable in Python". > > P.S. Thank you again Massimo for starting such a great python > framework! :D > > On Jun 29, 6:18 am, "Hans Donner" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > fully agree with this. > > However, the html views could perhaps be a bit more html and less python so > > most html tools could be used to build them and without needing much > > conversions. As indicated, how the java tapestry framework did this is very > > nice and we could perhaps borrow some ideas from them. > > > if youre less drag&drop and more source oriented, the current way is > > perfect and easy to learn. > > > ------- Original Message ------- > > From: annet <[email protected]> > > To: web2py Web Framework <[email protected]> > > Sent: 29/06/2009, 10:09:26 > > Subject: [web2py:25222] Re: Web2py is not too designer friendly? > > > I appreciate web2py as it is. In the past I worked with Adobe GoLive, > > NetBeans, JDeveloper and ADF and Filemaker. Beautiful software, I > > implemented use case after use case by simply dragging and dropping > > components and clicking my way through dialog boxes. However, the > > moment I wanted to adjust the generated code I was overwhelmed by the > > amount of code the software had generated in different files. > > > Web2py is the first framework that allows me to implement my > > application the way I designed it, my lack of Python knowledge is the > > limit, not the framework. I love building my own views in html, css > > and js keeping structure, style and action separated, something none > > of these IDE's complied with. > > > I hope web2py will stay as 'clean' as it is, and not become another > > 'NetBeansese' IDE. > > > Annet. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
