2009/7/17 Bottiger <[email protected]>: > > Django also has the ability to use SQLite. > > Web2Py is a somewhat better at everything Django tries to do, but the > differences are simply not enough for the average programmer to see > through in 1 sitting. Let's take a look at the commonly cited features > of Web2Py. > > **Please note this is not a bashing of Web2Py.** > > - Web Editor > > This is pretty nice yes, but its no replacement for a regular text > editor. Often times when I am using it, there will be graphical > glitches where text gets smeared all over the place. Often times when > I am editing even a simple tutorial, the save stops working, and > doesn't even tell you that the session has timed out. For most people, > this is not that much of a difference. > > - Compilation > > Django does this automatically, so I don't know why this is considered > a feature. > > - Secure > > The average programmer does not have the ability to see any concrete > benefit this has over Django. From what I've seen learning Web2Py, it > doesn't do anything that Django doesn't do with filtering and escaping > text, html etc. > > - Server-side form validation > > This is nice, but it is the trademark of Django for having really nice > auto-generated forms. > > - Internationalization > > http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/i18n/ > > - SSL Streaming > > Django does it with middleware. > > - And everything else I can think of. > > On Jul 17, 4:38 am, JohnMc <[email protected]> wrote: >> One other point. Web2Py is lightweight enough using sqlite that it >> fits quite well in areas where -- >> >> * portability is required. >> * space is at a premium. >> * The ability to have multitude of support applications are not >> possible (eg java creep, jre) >> >> Just a thought. >> >> On Jul 17, 6:34 am, JohnMc <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > The problem with Web2Py is that it does not have a niche. Right now, >> > Django is occupying the same niche. As the first-comer, it has the >> > advantage that people already know how to use it. Until Web2Py manages >> > to have a benefit greater than its own learning curve, Web2Py will >> > continue to sit in second place. >> >> > I hereby invoke the Jack Welch rule - Be first or second in any >> > endeavor, otherwise get out. >> >> > Were Web2Py to be number two behind Django after a concerted effort, >> > that quite frankly would be an outcome worth crowing about. Being >> > number two in the software game is not a bad place to be. >> >> > I have said in a previous post that Web2Py support of a schemeless DB >> > would put it in a position to have a niche. The 'cloud' might have a >> > lot of action but there is still going to be whole swaths of the >> > economy where the cloud will not be feasible (eg. NYSE). Which DB I >> > leave up to those more insightful than myself. >> >> > JohnMc >> >> > On Jul 17, 2:34 am, Bottiger <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > Finally, this community has to do a better job at outreach. You should >> >> > > talk to your friends and blog about web2py. You must talk about the >> > > applications you build with it. We do not lack developers. We lack >> > > salesmen. > > >
Hi guys Excuse me because my donkey-english-style :) I hope you will undestand. I think there is a niche that web2py could fit. I really have not made more than little tests with web2py. I'm less than a beginner. What's my point? I think there is a need to migrate a lot of old administrative systems to a good web solution. Everyone with a vb or .net application in an organization is thinking about migrating it to a web-app. I've started to migrate such app, first evaluating web frameworks, only Python ones, and choose Django. BUT - It must be more simple to build a usual dataentry form, preloading values, filling associated values (ej: item number -> description, price, etc). Yo need to work a lot with jquery, use some autocomplete, but all is hand-made. Admin is ok, but nothing to do with this kind of stuff. There are not so much use cases, it must be easy to automatize this. - It must be more simple to work with an existing DB and a new DB, migrating data, synchronizing them, in a smooth way to replace the old system, withouth stopping, aligning and testing both systems, still everyone wants to use only the new system. - It must be more simple to build reports, and printing formatted stuff. I think that organizations tend to mix web sites and administrative systems in one web system, with one front to internet and other (or the same) for the intranet. I believe that if web2py can do that, tons of systems will migrate. And, everyone can build a web site with Rails, Django, Symfony etc. My 2 cents -- Hernan Olivera --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
