Is maintaining a forum really a significant time drain for a serious
FOSS project?  Can someone help me understand why it is okay to let a
thread expire on a group?  I can't count the number of times I have
resurrected an old thread to add more info that I have found out - or
have messages sent to people who were still subscribed and who figured
out the problem but just forgot to update the thread.  With groups you
have to start the thread all over again.  That seems inefficient and
redundant.

I haven't yet figured out what sort of management model this project
follows - but if it were democratic, we could easily attach a poll to
this thread to gain consensus, if we were using a forum.  On the other
hand, if it's more of a "benevolent dictatorship", then I guess this
grumbling will continue indefinitely.

On Oct 28, 8:29 am, Julio <[email protected]> wrote:
> - Provides working search-ability (sorry Groups still sucks hard in
> this area)
>
> Timbo - Can you explain what you mean by "groups" in pyforum (and any
> suggestions you may have that might be useful to implement)?
>
> (if this goes a bit off-topic, feel free to reply to me directly) -
> Thanks..
>
> On Oct 28, 6:09 am, Timbo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The forum option has been discussed multiple times.  Let me (once
> > again) throw in my support for it.
>
> > pyForum:
> > - Provides working search-ability (sorry Groups still sucks hard in
> > this area)
> > - Allows one to still receive emails
> > - Fills a gap for those of us who want to keep up with the community
> > but don't want an email every 5 minutes.  (I'm on digest of the list
> > but a forum would better fit my level of interest/involvement)
> > - Having web2py use it would be dog-fooding and drive the development
> > of both
>
> > With the mailinglist, there is no good search option for those not
> > using their own email client for search.  Remember the Python 3
> > question?  There's a reason it pops up once every 2-3 weeks.  Because
> > Google Groups search will not find anything on list after a while and
> > so the question is asked again.  There's GMANE but most users don't
> > know to look there and the user interface is not the most friendly.
>
> > I vote pyForum.
>
> > -tim
>
> > On Oct 28, 4:07 am, salingrosso <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I think that we could use something like mailman for the mailing list 
> > > (but I
> > > must say that for now I hadn't problems with google groups) and we should
> > > have also a forum. I don't think that we must necessarily use a forum
> > > software realized in web2py, not immediately at least.
>
> > > 2009/10/28 mdipierro <[email protected]>
>
> > > > Right now the web2py google group takes negligible maintenance time.
> > > > We have about 10 managers.
>
> > > > Massimo
>
> > > > On Oct 27, 11:26 pm, david bain <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > I'm not against a forum, but I don't think I'd use it much. I'm
> > > > especially
> > > > > concerned that setting up and maintaining a forum may distract the 
> > > > > core
> > > > > developers from developing, whatever minimizes the administrative
> > > > overhead
> > > > > of running the web2py project is good as it frees minds to focus on
> > > > > improving the code.
>
> > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:51 PM, JorgeRpo <[email protected]> 
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > I rather like a forum because it doesnt require to clog my email box
> > > > > > with threaded msg.
>
> > > > > > We need a forum. We've had already discussed this.
>
> > > > > > On Oct 27, 10:20 pm, Thadeus Burgess <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > I like the mailing list because I can access it from gmail easily.
> > > > Forum
> > > > > > Iw
> > > > > > > ould have to go to yet one more site to communicate. I like 
> > > > > > > keeping
> > > > > > > everything in gmail if at all possible.
>
> > > > > > > -Thadeus
>
> > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:58 PM, mdipierro 
> > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > All together I am happy with it.
>
> > > > > > > > On Oct 27, 9:53 pm, david bain <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I understand the spam issue with Google Groups, however I
> > > > wouldn't
> > > > > > "throw
> > > > > > > > > the baby out with the bathwater". I find mailing lists to be 
> > > > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > valuable.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:50 PM, mengu <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > i think a forum would be more helpful and better.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Oct 28, 2:56 am, mdipierro <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > We are 10x smaller so I guess we get 10x less spam. We get
> > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > > 50-100 spam emails/day. We block the emails used by 
> > > > > > > > > > > spammers.
> > > > We
> > > > > > had
> > > > > > > > > > > only one reported case of actual user being spoofed. That 
> > > > > > > > > > > did
> > > > > > cause
> > > > > > > > > > > some trouble for the user.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure there are much better options.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Massimo
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 27, 6:45 pm, Richard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting article from John Resig of JQuery fame:
> > > > > > > > > >http://ejohn.org/blog/google-groups-is-dead/
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Is it really this bad Massimo?
>
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