For the record, I have used both services and have a preference for Coactivate.org. Both of them have a feature where they will email you when there is activity around something that you're interested in, the implementation is different between them.
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:48 PM, david bain <[email protected]> wrote: > I would like to strongly advocate that the project not be sidetracked and > that focused remains on improving the web2py trunk. I'm pretty new here, but > from what I've seen web2py has a great future if the focus is channeled > correctly. > > The issues with Google groups are real and significant. Perhaps resolving > this problem will require a middle ground, my suggestion: we could look for > a hosted service which offers some of the functionality that we've been > discussing. > > Two possible options: > 1. Coactivate.org - It offers an integrated forum/mailing list and data > should be pretty safe. > 2. Getsatisfaction.com - community driven user support, > > Either of these could solve the problem while adding little administrative > overhead. Coactivate.org is free, getsatisfaction.com has an basic package > which is free. > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Richard <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> I think he was meaning that search sucks in Google Groups (not >> pyforum). Correct me if wrong. >> >> >> On Oct 29, 2:29 am, Julio <[email protected]> wrote: >> > - Provides working search-ability (sorry Groups still sucks hard in >> > this area) >> > >> > Timbo - Can you explain what you mean by "groups" in pyforum (and any >> > suggestions you may have that might be useful to implement)? >> > >> > (if this goes a bit off-topic, feel free to reply to me directly) - >> > Thanks.. >> > >> > On Oct 28, 6:09 am, Timbo <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > The forum option has been discussed multiple times. Let me (once >> > > again) throw in my support for it. >> > >> > > pyForum: >> > > - Provides working search-ability (sorry Groups still sucks hard in >> > > this area) >> > > - Allows one to still receive emails >> > > - Fills a gap for those of us who want to keep up with the community >> > > but don't want an email every 5 minutes. (I'm on digest of the list >> > > but a forum would better fit my level of interest/involvement) >> > > - Having web2py use it would be dog-fooding and drive the development >> > > of both >> > >> > > With the mailinglist, there is no good search option for those not >> > > using their own email client for search. Remember the Python 3 >> > > question? There's a reason it pops up once every 2-3 weeks. Because >> > > Google Groups search will not find anything on list after a while and >> > > so the question is asked again. There's GMANE but most users don't >> > > know to look there and the user interface is not the most friendly. >> > >> > > I vote pyForum. >> > >> > > -tim >> > >> > > On Oct 28, 4:07 am, salingrosso <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > > I think that we could use something like mailman for the mailing >> list (but I >> > > > must say that for now I hadn't problems with google groups) and we >> should >> > > > have also a forum. I don't think that we must necessarily use a >> forum >> > > > software realized in web2py, not immediately at least. >> > >> > > > 2009/10/28 mdipierro <[email protected]> >> > >> > > > > Right now the web2py google group takes negligible maintenance >> time. >> > > > > We have about 10 managers. >> > >> > > > > Massimo >> > >> > > > > On Oct 27, 11:26 pm, david bain <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > > I'm not against a forum, but I don't think I'd use it much. I'm >> > > > > especially >> > > > > > concerned that setting up and maintaining a forum may distract >> the core >> > > > > > developers from developing, whatever minimizes the >> administrative >> > > > > overhead >> > > > > > of running the web2py project is good as it frees minds to focus >> on >> > > > > > improving the code. >> > >> > > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:51 PM, JorgeRpo <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > I rather like a forum because it doesnt require to clog my >> email box >> > > > > > > with threaded msg. >> > >> > > > > > > We need a forum. We've had already discussed this. >> > >> > > > > > > On Oct 27, 10:20 pm, Thadeus Burgess <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > > > > > > > I like the mailing list because I can access it from gmail >> easily. >> > > > > Forum >> > > > > > > Iw >> > > > > > > > ould have to go to yet one more site to communicate. I like >> keeping >> > > > > > > > everything in gmail if at all possible. >> > >> > > > > > > > -Thadeus >> > >> > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:58 PM, mdipierro < >> [email protected]> >> > > > > > > wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > > All together I am happy with it. >> > >> > > > > > > > > On Oct 27, 9:53 pm, david bain <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > I understand the spam issue with Google Groups, however >> I >> > > > > wouldn't >> > > > > > > "throw >> > > > > > > > > > the baby out with the bathwater". I find mailing lists >> to be very >> > > > > > > > > valuable. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:50 PM, mengu < >> [email protected]> >> > > > > wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > i think a forum would be more helpful and better. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 28, 2:56 am, mdipierro < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > We are 10x smaller so I guess we get 10x less spam. >> We get >> > > > > about >> > > > > > > > > > > > 50-100 spam emails/day. We block the emails used by >> spammers. >> > > > > We >> > > > > > > had >> > > > > > > > > > > > only one reported case of actual user being spoofed. >> That did >> > > > > > > cause >> > > > > > > > > > > > some trouble for the user. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure there are much better options. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Massimo >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 27, 6:45 pm, Richard <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting article from John Resig of JQuery >> fame: >> > > > > > > > > > >http://ejohn.org/blog/google-groups-is-dead/ >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it really this bad Massimo? >> > >> > > > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > > > SplashStart - Professional Websites. Starting Now. >> > > > > > > > >http://www.splashstart.com >> > >> > > > > > -- >> > > > > > SplashStart - Professional Websites. Starting Now. >> > > > >http://www.splashstart.com >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > -- > SplashStart - Professional Websites. 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