I wasn't really impressed by that article. It sounded like someone complaining about all persistence frameworks at the same time without really understanding even the first one he ever used ... or he wouldn't write:

"For example, SQL is a very dynamic language that you can’t state it with objects. What we see is QUERY, JOIN, WHERE objects in ORM frameworks to re-implement SQL again in object world. We made this mistake in our first ORM framework but corrected in second one."

I didn't read it all that thoroughly as I got the impression that someone is whining about things he did do wrong in the first quarter of the article. I might be wrong about that, but definitely he wasn't able to show his understanding of the difference of all the tools out there. And complaining about all of them at the same time - at least you should be able to show the differences.

cug


On 05.12.2008, at 14:47, David Holt wrote:

Hi Anjo,

I thought the interesting part is that most of the authors "pitfalls of Java Persistence" are addressed by WebObjects, DirectToWeb, EOF and WOnder. What's interesting is that he says he was using it in 2000 and then wandered off into the desert creating his own persistence layer(s) when he had already had exposure to a good solution! Maybe that's a typical story that happened as WO moved from NeXT to Apple, but as someone who got to WebObjects much later, from the so-called easy development environment of PHP, I wish I'd been using WO in 2000 and not spending 3 or 4 years heading towards a relative dead end.

David


On 5-Dec-08, at 1:18 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:


Am 05.12.2008 um 18:38 schrieb Chuck Hill:

http://fromapitosolution.blogspot.com/2008/12/criticism-of-java-persistence.html

WebObjects gets mentioned twice. Might be an interesting read if you have spare time.

Where exactly is the interesting part? Or is it because I have no spare time?

Cheers, Anjo
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