On Dec 5, 2008, at 11:40 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:


On Dec 5, 2008, at 2:34 PM, Petite Abeille wrote:
On Dec 5, 2008, at 11:16 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

It thought it might be interesting to look at this this from a WO in 2008 with Wonder perspective and see how many of his grumbles are still valid (if they ever were).

Chuck, out of curiosity, during all those long years laboring with EOF/WOF, have your ever seriously tried to use, say, SQL and HTTP more directly? Without all that NeXT paraphilia? In the 'raw' so to speak?


During, no. Before, yes. At least the SQL part. WO is the only thing I have developed web apps with. The HTML side of WO I am not so amazed by. It is the EOF part that I really like. I tried to make my own ORM a couple of times and was actively looking for a good commercial implementation in Java or Delphi before being assigned a WO project. At the time I was mostly using Delphi.

Could it be that those frameworks are some sort of glorified Rube Goldberg apparatus, much more complex than the problem at hand? And we simply got used to them, over time, out of habit, loosing sight of everything else?

Cheers,

PA, The Luddite.




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