Also, I'm not a shell scripting maestro but I'd volunteer effort to help keep a 
tool installer updated.

Tim Worman
UCLA GSE&IS



On Dec 6, 2009, at 9:36 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

> I was setting up a new SL dev environment, and just to see what the initial 
> installation and setup procedure would be like for a complete newbie on SL, I 
> looked on the wiki for instructions for the simplest possible path to new 
> installation on a virgin Snow Leopard.
> 
> It seems that really, a newbie would probably be confused and would probably 
> struggle. :-(
> 
> 
> After installing WebObjects 5.4.3 using Apple's dmg installer and then 
> installing the "All In One" Eclipse/WOLips installer from Jeremy's .mac page 
> (since the sisu download was slow as molasses with an est time of 1 day+!), I 
> then hit a roadblock, getting an error when launching Eclipse after running 
> Jeremy's installer.
>       " An Error has occurred"
>       " See the log file ~/.eclipse/...../blahblah.log"
> 
> That error log file is full of "missing required bundle" messages.
> 
> Anyway, just FYI, I don't have time for troubleshooting this now .... I am 
> doing my usual 3.4.2 download and install/setup the manual way.
> 
> Since Jeremy is not working in WO anymore and this is AIO (All In One) 
> installer is clearly broken for install on a virgin OS X Snow Leopard box, we 
> might want to just discontinue the all-in-one installer and just go write a 
> concise "WebObjects Developer Quick Start Guide" for newbies .......so I 
> started a wiki page on this and will work on completing it as I get time. Any 
> thoughts on that? Should I wipe all references on the wiki to the AIO?
> 
> If we are ever going to get new devs to come to WebObjects, we need to have a 
> working quick start. Any dev worth his salt should be comfortable on the 
> command line, so maybe a bash install script that downloads and installs 
> various bits and configures everything might be the better route. Any 
> opinions on that?
> 
> BTW, I went to use the WOInstaller.jar initially and thinking that a newbie 
> would want standard install paths, I set the WOInstaller.jar target as "/", 
> but got an error saying System directory already exists. Should the 
> WOInstaller.jar's CPIO class be changed to just overwrite existing files? 
> Does that "overlay" directory paths (aka merge eith existing files if named 
> differently, or does it realyl "replace" existing directories (ie., wiping 
> them out)?
> 
> Anyway, this is just some meandering thoughts / discussion before I leave off 
> the "How would a newbie WO dev fare on getting started" for now and go do 
> some work.
> 
> Regards, Kieran
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