And we will try to help out the community even more. I have a couple of ideas about that...
> In the meantime, while we wait for the apocalypse, whoever wants to keep > making apps with Java and WebObjects is welcome to hang around. > > ms > > On Sep 10, 2010, at 5:43 PM, Ken Foust wrote: > >> From the outside looking in: >> >> It appears to me as thought WO is on the end of life list. As good as it >> may be I don't suspect in can survive in the future. >> Apple has elected to leave web development to the open-source. I would >> suspect they only possible way Apple can compete in the >> Enterprise market is to make it proprietary and in ObjC. Short of that you >> have too many people working for free on Rails, Grails and all >> the open-source programs. >> There is no way to get enough new users to come aboard as WO now has poor >> documentation and terrible tutorials. >> Sorry if I offend anyone but it is what it is. >> For you gurus to understand it completely - leaves you in a world of your >> own, but selling the concept I believe is difficult and will even get more >> difficult. >> Hell I think Java is on the way out along with Sun and Oracle. >> >> Apple has always had the proprietary followers and they could put off a >> brilliant app for web development should they choose. In addition their >> market share is now large enough to support the idea. >> >> my two cents >> >> >> On Sep 10, 2010, at 1:02 PM, André Mitra wrote: >> >>> except Mathematica :) >>> >>> On 2010-09-10, at 9:26 AM, Amiel Montecillo wrote: >>> >>>> Mike is scary somtimes .... ;) But I agree with him that there is no 1 >>>> tool that does everything. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Amiel >>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Mike Schrag <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Here's my slightly less grumpy response :) >>>> >>>> Apple, like any smart company, makes technology decisions based on lots of >>>> variables -- what technology makes sense? what technology doesn't make >>>> sense? what is the expertise of our current staffing? what are the goals >>>> for the project? etc ... I love WO, but I'm also the first to admit that >>>> WO and EOF aren't the right fit for every problem. There are parts of WOF >>>> and EOF that drive me crazy, and there are parts that are amazing. I also >>>> don't think that being WO inherently makes you scalable any more than I >>>> think being a Rails app makes you inherently unscalable. It's just like >>>> the NoSQL vs Relational debate. Are relational databases dead? No. That's >>>> just silly. But do NoSQL databases have a place? Absolutely -- they bring >>>> value to a certain set of problems that relational doesn't address well. >>>> Likewise, Apple has public web properties that are static html, php, >>>> struts, jsf, jsp, sproutcore, webobjects, and I'm sure others and there >>>> are lots of different reasons in each of those cases why decisions were >>>> made one way or another. In any complex system, you're probably going to >>>> end up with a mix of technologies. As far as "details," you're just not >>>> going to get them because Apple doesn't roll that way. >>>> >>>> ms >>>> >>>> On Sep 10, 2010, at 2:54 AM, Mertz Stéphan wrote: >>>> >>>> > Hi, >>>> > >>>> > The new 'the Sales and Trend reporting module' of iTunes Connect is >>>> > develop with JSF instead of WebObjects. >>>> > Does Apple stop to use WebObjects for its internal tools? >>>> > >>>> > Does someone know what is powering the new Ping social network ? >>>> > >>>> > Regards, >>>> > >>>> > Stéphan _______________________________________________ >>>> > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>> > Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >>>> > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mschrag%40pobox.com >>>> > >>>> > This email sent to [email protected] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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