Or we could just find someplace dark to hide and wait for it all to end. In the meantime, I have a lot of work to do...
On Sep 10, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: > And we will try to help out the community even more. I have a couple of ideas > about that... > >> In the meantime, while we wait for the apocalypse, whoever wants to keep >> making apps with Java and WebObjects is welcome to hang around. >> >> ms >> >> On Sep 10, 2010, at 5:43 PM, Ken Foust wrote: >> >>> From the outside looking in: >>> >>> It appears to me as thought WO is on the end of life list. As good as it >>> may be I don't suspect in can survive in the future. >>> Apple has elected to leave web development to the open-source. I would >>> suspect they only possible way Apple can compete in the >>> Enterprise market is to make it proprietary and in ObjC. Short of that you >>> have too many people working for free on Rails, Grails and all >>> the open-source programs. >>> There is no way to get enough new users to come aboard as WO now has poor >>> documentation and terrible tutorials. >>> Sorry if I offend anyone but it is what it is. >>> For you gurus to understand it completely - leaves you in a world of your >>> own, but selling the concept I believe is difficult and will even get more >>> difficult. >>> Hell I think Java is on the way out along with Sun and Oracle. >>> >>> Apple has always had the proprietary followers and they could put off a >>> brilliant app for web development should they choose. In addition their >>> market share is now large enough to support the idea. >>> >>> my two cents >>> >>> >>> On Sep 10, 2010, at 1:02 PM, André Mitra wrote: >>> >>>> except Mathematica :) >>>> >>>> On 2010-09-10, at 9:26 AM, Amiel Montecillo wrote: >>>> >>>>> Mike is scary somtimes .... ;) But I agree with him that there is no 1 >>>>> tool that does everything. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Amiel >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Mike Schrag <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Here's my slightly less grumpy response :) >>>>> >>>>> Apple, like any smart company, makes technology decisions based on lots >>>>> of variables -- what technology makes sense? what technology doesn't make >>>>> sense? what is the expertise of our current staffing? what are the goals >>>>> for the project? etc ... I love WO, but I'm also the first to admit that >>>>> WO and EOF aren't the right fit for every problem. There are parts of WOF >>>>> and EOF that drive me crazy, and there are parts that are amazing. I also >>>>> don't think that being WO inherently makes you scalable any more than I >>>>> think being a Rails app makes you inherently unscalable. It's just like >>>>> the NoSQL vs Relational debate. Are relational databases dead? No. That's >>>>> just silly. But do NoSQL databases have a place? Absolutely -- they bring >>>>> value to a certain set of problems that relational doesn't address well. >>>>> Likewise, Apple has public web properties that are static html, php, >>>>> struts, jsf, jsp, sproutcore, webobjects, and I'm sure others and there >>>>> are lots of different reasons in each of those cases why decisions were >>>>> made one way or another. In any complex system, you're probably going to >>>>> end up with a mix of technologies. As far as "details," you're just not >>>>> going to get them because Apple doesn't roll that way. >>>>> >>>>> ms >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 10, 2010, at 2:54 AM, Mertz Stéphan wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > Hi, >>>>> > >>>>> > The new 'the Sales and Trend reporting module' of iTunes Connect is >>>>> > develop with JSF instead of WebObjects. >>>>> > Does Apple stop to use WebObjects for its internal tools? >>>>> > >>>>> > Does someone know what is powering the new Ping social network ? >>>>> > >>>>> > Regards, >>>>> > >>>>> > Stéphan _______________________________________________ >>>>> > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>> > Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >>>>> > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>> > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mschrag%40pobox.com >>>>> > >>>>> > This email sent to [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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