Am 21.10.2010 um 12:36 schrieb David Avendasora: > Hi Matthias, > > Where did the X11 come from? I don't see that in the emails you are copying > below. The native gui support is an apple addition, if there is no apple vm there is no native gui .. right ? > > Also, as Rob Ross pointed out below, this ends up making MacOS X the same as > every other OS out there, you will have to download and install a JVM > yourself in future versions of OS X. Where to get a third-party JVM for Mac? > That's another question. Now that Apple isn't providing their own JVM and > they've opened OS X up for others, there should be a third-party, or even a > Sun/Oracle VM soon. Oracle, you said Oracle ? Sry David -1 trust in oracle, they do nothing for nothing .. > > There's a _lot_ of Java coders out there using Macs. It's a vacuum that isn't > going to last long. OK, at this time there is only the buggy OpenJDK from http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/static/soylatte/ but buggy and -> X11 > > It does suck that Apple's own JVM is being deprecated, but it's not like > Microsoft has their own JVM either and Java seems to work just fine there. It's true http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#releasenotes/Java/JavaSnowLeopardUpdate3LeopardUpdate8RN/NewandNoteworthy/NewandNoteworthy.html I know i can download a win version but there is no native version for osx ... > > Dave > > On Oct 21, 2010, at 6:12 AM, Matthias Jakob wrote: > >> LOOOOLLOLOL >> >> and Eclipse with X11? >> >> At this time if there is no native gui java, macosx is dead for me our >> company our deployment an ALL our customers! >> >> so apple: think twice!! >> >> >> PS: WO Guys, Mike whats the hell is this -> X11 ?? >> __________________________________ >> >> Dipl.-Inf.(FH) Matthias Jakob >> Entwickler >> >> Takwa GmbH >> Friedrich-List-Str. 36 >> 99096 Erfurt >> >> Tel.: +49 361 6534096 >> Fax.: +49 361 6534097 >> eMail: matthias.ja...@takwa.de >> WWW: http://www.takwa.de >> >> Sitz: Erfurt >> Amtsgericht Erfurt HRB 12964 >> Geschäftsführung: Ingo Buchholz >> __________________________________ >> >> Am 21.10.2010 um 12:03 schrieb Shawn Erickson: >> >>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Rob Ross <rob.r...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> It is worse than this. Not only are Java apps not going to be permitted, >>>> Apple is actually *removing* Java from future Mac OS versions. So even if >>>> you wanted to develop a Java app for the Mac App store, you are prohibited >>>> because Java is now deprecated...just in time for the Mac App store >>>> announcement. >>>> >>>> That these two announcements happen on the same day is very suspicious, >>>> and it is hard not to think they are quite related. >>> >>> If your product needs Java you are now free to bundle/install a JVM >>> with your product (or point customers at it) and the OS will support >>> using it. Many folks have been asking for this capability. This is >>> like most other operating systems. It is also similar to products that >>> use things like Qt, they bundle it with their application. >>> >>> If you purchased a Mac to do Java development you can continue to use >>> it for that by using a 3rd party JVM, etc. >>> >>> Apple isn't planning to continue their JVM port essentially but they >>> aren't preventing others from doing so. It sucks but... >>> >>> -Shawn >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Java-dev mailing list (java-...@lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/java-dev/jakob%40takwa.de >>> >>> This email sent to ja...@takwa.de >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40avendasora.com >> >> This email sent to webobje...@avendasora.com >
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