I don't think we should panic... Don't forget that Apple also need a JVM to run their numerous WO apps. Unless they are going back to WO in Objective-C or Ruby On Rails, they will need a JVM too...
> > Am 21.10.2010 um 12:36 schrieb David Avendasora: > >> Hi Matthias, >> >> Where did the X11 come from? I don't see that in the emails you are copying >> below. > The native gui support is an apple addition, if there is no apple vm there is > no native gui .. right ? >> >> Also, as Rob Ross pointed out below, this ends up making MacOS X the same as >> every other OS out there, you will have to download and install a JVM >> yourself in future versions of OS X. Where to get a third-party JVM for Mac? >> That's another question. Now that Apple isn't providing their own JVM and >> they've opened OS X up for others, there should be a third-party, or even a >> Sun/Oracle VM soon. > Oracle, you said Oracle ? Sry David -1 trust in oracle, they do nothing for > nothing .. >> >> There's a _lot_ of Java coders out there using Macs. It's a vacuum that >> isn't going to last long. > OK, at this time there is only the buggy OpenJDK from > http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/static/soylatte/ but buggy and -> X11 >> >> It does suck that Apple's own JVM is being deprecated, but it's not like >> Microsoft has their own JVM either and Java seems to work just fine there. > It's true > http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#releasenotes/Java/JavaSnowLeopardUpdate3LeopardUpdate8RN/NewandNoteworthy/NewandNoteworthy.html > I know i can download a win version but there is no native version for osx ... >> >> Dave >> >> On Oct 21, 2010, at 6:12 AM, Matthias Jakob wrote: >> >>> LOOOOLLOLOL >>> >>> and Eclipse with X11? >>> >>> At this time if there is no native gui java, macosx is dead for me our >>> company our deployment an ALL our customers! >>> >>> so apple: think twice!! >>> >>> >>> PS: WO Guys, Mike whats the hell is this -> X11 ?? >>> __________________________________ >>> >>> Dipl.-Inf.(FH) Matthias Jakob >>> Entwickler >>> >>> Takwa GmbH >>> Friedrich-List-Str. 36 >>> 99096 Erfurt >>> >>> Tel.: +49 361 6534096 >>> Fax.: +49 361 6534097 >>> eMail: matthias.ja...@takwa.de >>> WWW: http://www.takwa.de >>> >>> Sitz: Erfurt >>> Amtsgericht Erfurt HRB 12964 >>> Geschäftsführung: Ingo Buchholz >>> __________________________________ >>> >>> Am 21.10.2010 um 12:03 schrieb Shawn Erickson: >>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Rob Ross <rob.r...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> It is worse than this. Not only are Java apps not going to be permitted, >>>>> Apple is actually *removing* Java from future Mac OS versions. So even if >>>>> you wanted to develop a Java app for the Mac App store, you are >>>>> prohibited because Java is now deprecated...just in time for the Mac App >>>>> store announcement. >>>>> >>>>> That these two announcements happen on the same day is very suspicious, >>>>> and it is hard not to think they are quite related. >>>> >>>> If your product needs Java you are now free to bundle/install a JVM >>>> with your product (or point customers at it) and the OS will support >>>> using it. Many folks have been asking for this capability. This is >>>> like most other operating systems. It is also similar to products that >>>> use things like Qt, they bundle it with their application. >>>> >>>> If you purchased a Mac to do Java development you can continue to use >>>> it for that by using a 3rd party JVM, etc. >>>> >>>> Apple isn't planning to continue their JVM port essentially but they >>>> aren't preventing others from doing so. It sucks but... >>>> >>>> -Shawn >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>> Java-dev mailing list (java-...@lists.apple.com) >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/java-dev/jakob%40takwa.de >>>> >>>> This email sent to ja...@takwa.de >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40avendasora.com >>> >>> This email sent to webobje...@avendasora.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca > > This email sent to prob...@macti.ca
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