On Oct 21, 2010, at 6:36 AM, David Avendasora wrote:
Hi Matthias,
Where did the X11 come from? I don't see that in the emails you are
copying below.
http://java.dzone.com/articles/apple-shuns-java
Must be referring to SoyLatte
Also, as Rob Ross pointed out below, this ends up making MacOS X the
same as every other OS out there, you will have to download and
install a JVM yourself in future versions of OS X. Where to get a
third-party JVM for Mac? That's another question. Now that Apple
isn't providing their own JVM and they've opened OS X up for others,
there should be a third-party, or even a Sun/Oracle VM soon.
There's a _lot_ of Java coders out there using Macs. It's a vacuum
that isn't going to last long.
It does suck that Apple's own JVM is being deprecated, but it's not
like Microsoft has their own JVM either and Java seems to work just
fine there.
Dave
On Oct 21, 2010, at 6:12 AM, Matthias Jakob wrote:
LOOOOLLOLOL
and Eclipse with X11?
At this time if there is no native gui java, macosx is dead for me
our company our deployment an ALL our customers!
so apple: think twice!!
PS: WO Guys, Mike whats the hell is this -> X11 ??
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Am 21.10.2010 um 12:03 schrieb Shawn Erickson:
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Rob Ross <rob.r...@gmail.com>
wrote:
It is worse than this. Not only are Java apps not going to be
permitted, Apple is actually *removing* Java from future Mac OS
versions. So even if you wanted to develop a Java app for the Mac
App store, you are prohibited because Java is now
deprecated...just in time for the Mac App store announcement.
That these two announcements happen on the same day is very
suspicious, and it is hard not to think they are quite related.
If your product needs Java you are now free to bundle/install a JVM
with your product (or point customers at it) and the OS will support
using it. Many folks have been asking for this capability. This is
like most other operating systems. It is also similar to products
that
use things like Qt, they bundle it with their application.
If you purchased a Mac to do Java development you can continue to
use
it for that by using a 3rd party JVM, etc.
Apple isn't planning to continue their JVM port essentially but they
aren't preventing others from doing so. It sucks but...
-Shawn
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