That was my first thought when I head this.

Chuck

On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:56 AM, Simon wrote:

> This is great news for java developers on the mac platform. Apples
> development of the mac jvm has been dog slow for years. Where is java
> 7? Where is java 8? Oracle will pick up from here and we'll have
> regular updates and access to the latest kit....
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> On Thursday, October 21, 2010, David Avendasora
> <webobje...@avendasora.com> wrote:
>> Hi Matthias,
>> Where did the X11 come from? I don't see that in the emails you are copying 
>> below.
>> Also, as Rob Ross pointed out below, this ends up making MacOS X the same as 
>> every other OS out there, you will have to download and install a JVM 
>> yourself in future versions of OS X. Where to get a third-party JVM for Mac? 
>> That's another question. Now that Apple isn't providing their own JVM and 
>> they've opened OS X up for others, there should be a third-party, or even a 
>> Sun/Oracle VM soon.
>> There's a _lot_ of Java coders out there using Macs. It's a vacuum that 
>> isn't going to last long.
>> It does suck that Apple's own JVM is being deprecated, but it's not like 
>> Microsoft has their own JVM either and Java seems to work just fine there.
>> Dave
>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 6:12 AM, Matthias Jakob wrote:
>> LOOOOLLOLOL
>> and Eclipse with X11?
>> At this time if there is no native gui java, macosx is dead for me our 
>> company our deployment an ALL our customers!
>> so apple: think twice!!
>> 
>> 
>> PS: WO Guys, Mike whats the hell is this -> X11 ??
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>> Am 21.10.2010 um 12:03 schrieb Shawn Erickson:
>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Rob Ross <rob.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It is worse than this. Not only are Java apps not going to be permitted, 
>> Apple is actually *removing* Java from future Mac OS versions. So even if 
>> you wanted to develop a Java app for the Mac App store, you are prohibited 
>> because Java is now deprecated...just in time for the Mac App store 
>> announcement.
>> 
>> That these two announcements happen on the same day is very suspicious, and 
>> it is hard not to think they are quite related.
>> 
>> If your product needs Java you are now free to bundle/install a JVM
>> with your product (or point customers at it) and the OS will support
>> using it. Many folks have been asking for this capability. This is
>> like most other operating systems. It is also similar to products that
>> use things like Qt, they bundle it with their application.
>> 
>> If you purchased a Mac to do Java development you can continue to use
>> it for that by using a 3rd party JVM, etc.
>> 
>> Apple isn't planning to continue their JVM port essentially but they
>> aren't preventing others from doing so. It sucks but...
>> 
>> -Shawn
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