Le 2011-05-09 à 11:53, Paul D Yu a écrit : > I think the migration to the "one way" is absolutely the right thing to do. > This is the basis from Crossing the Chasm. > > We have to simplify and make things consistent for the general new developers.
Installing everything (Eclipse, WOLips, WO, the launchd scripts) from the Golipse script might be the best way to do it. > Paul > On May 9, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: > >> >> Le 2011-05-09 à 10:18, John Huss a écrit : >> >>> Mike floated the idea a while back about integration WO installation into >>> WOLips. That is the best option in my opinion. Barring that, I still >>> think the easiest, sure to work method is to: >>> >>> 1) Use Apple's WebObjects installer >>> 2) Download eclipse >>> 3) Install WOLips >>> >>> Most java developers probably already have Eclipse anyway, so then it is >>> just two steps. If the WO installer was part of WOLips, then it is just >>> one step. >>> >>> In my experience helping developers get set up here, solutions that don't >>> use Apple's WebObjects installer end up causing problems for users, mainly >>> because of the non-standard file locations; using >>> /System/Library/Frameworks and /Library/Frameworks, etc, results in a less >>> problematic installation. >> >> We could use symlinks for that, eg >> /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaFoundation.framework/ count point to >> /Developer/WebObjects/System/Library/Frameworks/JavaFoundation.framework/ >> (or just /Developer/WebObjects/Frameworks/JavaFoundation.framework/). >> >>> John >>> >>> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Pascal Robert <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Le 2011-05-09 à 07:50, Kieran Kelleher a écrit : >>> >>> > AFAIK, the Apple dmg is the only one that installs the examples, >>> > documentation (in Developer dir), etc.? Might be useful for beginners. >>> >>> I wouldn't call the examples to be useful :-) We should write new examples >>> that use Wonder features. But I think you are right about the >>> documentation. Maybe woinstall.jar could be changed to also install the >>> documentation. >>> >>> > I use woinstall.jar myself usually. >>> > >>> > In any case, just pick whichever way you think is best, easiest for >>> > beginners, and works reliably. >>> > >>> > On May 9, 2011, at 6:00 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: >>> > >>> >> Ok, so we have four pages in the wiki that tells how to configure Apache >>> >> for development, and numerous pages on how to install WOLips and the >>> >> core WO frameworks. We need one or two pages maximum! So we need to >>> >> define what is the The One True Way to install and configure everything >>> >> for development. >>> >> >>> >> My personal preferences are: >>> >> >>> >> * Install WO in /Developer/WebObjects with woinstall.jar >>> >> >>> >> I think installing WO with the Apple dmg is unsafe, because it install >>> >> stuff in /System, and Apple have been know to remove stuff they don't >>> >> support or third-party tools from /System when new releases of OS X are >>> >> made. Installing everything in /Developer/WebObjects or >>> >> /Library/WebObjects is much safer. >>> >> >>> >> * Install Eclipse/WOLips with Golipse >>> >> >>> >> IMHO, that's the best way to install the tools, since they install all >>> >> required plugins + the correct version of Eclipse. But since the default >>> >> WOLips properties are set for /Library and /System, we would need to >>> >> change them to /Developer/WebObjects when installing from Golipse. >>> >> >>> >> * Install Wonder's wotaskd + the adaptor >>> >> >>> >> Everyone should have a copy of Wonder's wotaskd for development. Even if >>> >> someone is using DirectConnect for all development, having a copy of >>> >> wotaskd is useful. >>> >> >>> >> Opinions? >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> >> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >>> >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kelleherk%40gmail.com >>> >> >>> >> This email sent to [email protected] >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/johnthuss%40gmail.com >>> >>> This email sent to [email protected] >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/pyu%40mac.com >> >> This email sent to [email protected] >
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