On May 10, 2011, at 12:05 PM, Michael Schrag wrote:

> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On May 10, 2011, at 6:47 AM, Henrique Gomes <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> It's always good to minimize confusion, I'm all for it.
>> 
>> On May 9, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok, so we have four pages in the wiki that tells how to configure Apache 
>>> for development, and numerous pages on how to install WOLips and the core 
>>> WO frameworks. We need one or two pages maximum! So we need to define what 
>>> is the The One True Way to install and configure everything for development.
>>> 
>>> My personal preferences are:
>>> 
>>> * Install WO in /Developer/WebObjects with woinstall.jar
>>> 
>>> I think installing WO with the Apple dmg is unsafe, because it install 
>>> stuff in /System, and Apple have been know to remove stuff they don't 
>>> support or third-party tools from /System when new releases of OS X are 
>>> made. Installing everything in /Developer/WebObjects or /Library/WebObjects 
>>> is much safer.
>>> 
>> That's something I never thought  about, never experienced, I'll take note 
>> of it.
>> I just have a problem with woinstall: it does not work trough an http proxy 
>> and that has made my life complicated in the past when deploying on 
>> customers which restrict http access. Maybe it could be changed so that the 
>> users downloads the .dmg and then points woinstall to it?
> The source for this is trivial. If java supports the type of proxy you have, 
> this should work with almost no effort. I don't recall if we use the java.net 
> API or apache httpclient, but I it's java, you can just set the standard -D 
> proxy system properties when you run and it should work. If it's apache, it 
> may require two lines of code. Patches welcome.

No patch needed, on the mac it uses the proxy from network settings, on linux  
the standard http_proxy env variable does not work, it requires the system 
properties:

java -Dhttp.proxyHost=proxyHostName  -Dhttp.proxyPort=portNumber  -jar 
WOInstaller.jar 5.4.3 t

The knowledge about those those -D options must have been in a part of my brain 
that was off-line when I was deploying....

> 
>> 
>>> * Install Eclipse/WOLips with Golipse
>>> 
>>> IMHO, that's the best way to install the tools, since they install all 
>>> required plugins + the correct version of Eclipse. But since the default 
>>> WOLips properties are set for /Library and /System, we would need to change 
>>> them to /Developer/WebObjects when installing from Golipse.
>>> 
>> 
>> I might be the only one, but I like to have some control of my machine, and 
>> really see no point in those scripts. 
>> Just tell what version and package of eclipse to install (classic, Java, 
>> whatever) and list the plugin sites.
>> We are talking to *developers*...  about using a complex framework.
> Total crazy talk. Why take 10 minutes to do something that you can do in 5 
> seconds? And if we're talking about "developers" you can either edit the 
> script or look in it to get your urls and plugins. I originally wrote the 
> base script for myself, because I got tired of wasting my time doing 
> repetitive robot work.
> 
> ms
> 


OK, I'm the only one then :-) 


Henrique Gomes



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