The only problem I see is that we would have to stop doing this for free and 
demand that people pay for support.  That makes the community less self 
supporting than it is now.  And for larger support needs, that cuts into some 
of our day jobs.


Chuck


On 2012-03-15, at 1:08 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:

> Just a random idea I had I'm not sure if it's been discussed already but here 
> goes:
> 
> Maybe the community could sell support and members could donate their time to 
> service the support.  Seems like something people do anyway and at least this 
> time the community could get paid for it.
> 
> And then when developers run up against the objection of "why should I use WO 
> if Apple no longer supports it?" the dev can say don't worry we can buy 
> support from this organization who specializes in WebObjects.
> 
> Anyway just a thought,
> 
> Johnny Miller
> Kahalawai Media Corp.
> www.kahalawai.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 15, 2012, at 7:25 AM, David Holt wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 2012-03-15, at 10:04 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Le 2012-03-15 à 12:19, James Cicenia a écrit :
>>> 
>>>> I think a better strategy is that we get a volunteer to go to Apple and 
>>>> sit there until Tim Cook meets with said volunteer.
>>>> 
>>>> With the iOS making major penetration into the corporate world, this is a 
>>>> perfect opportunity to get the tools in there too!
>>> 
>>> Ok, so knowing Apple, they will make sure that a new release of WO that 
>>> will only to talk to iOS devices. I don't think they care much about the 
>>> Web. I'm pretty sure that it was discussed inside Apple...
>> 
>> The WEB is dead!! The WEB is dead!! 
>> 
>> (long live WebObjects :-)
>> 
>>> 
>>>> We could all chip in $100 or so to pay for transportation, room and board. 
>>>> 
>>>> I could volunteer for the assignment.
>>>> 
>>>> James
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 15, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I don't think Apple cares about petitions, or else OpenDoc, HyperCard and 
>>>>> other stuff would still be around :-) I guess we can try to email Tim 
>>>>> Cook directly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I always wondered how many of us have opened issues in Radar to ask for 
>>>>> new releases of WO?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Petition the new boss to APSL the rest of WO 5.4.3.  We've already got 
>>>>>> JavaWOExtensions, JavaMonitor, wotaskd, and the web server adaptor code. 
>>>>>>  The whole thing would be nice, but I only count 8 core frameworks that 
>>>>>> we really need, 14 if you count java client.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ramsey
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 15, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So based on what people said, this is what the "community roadmap" for 
>>>>>>> this year should be:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Finishing the tutorials
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Writing a Getting Started with Project Wonder book
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Improvements on the development and deployment tools to make them 
>>>>>>> easier to work it (especially on starting up, like an installer than 
>>>>>>> install Eclipse, WOLips and the WO/Wonder frameworks)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Fixing bugs or doing improvements that are affecting at least 25% of 
>>>>>>> the community (the 2G limit of WOFileUpload, model reverse engineering 
>>>>>>> bugs, etc.)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Documentation about how to move to Wonder APIs instead of the 
>>>>>>> straight WO APIs (that's the first part before moving to alternatives)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Better integration between WO and iOS/Android 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Anything else?
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