After I sent the email I was thinking about your second point that it's probably a conflict of interest for many people. I guess the community could get whole sale rates from people like yourself and become a kind of reseller.
But maybe it's just a bad idea all around. Johnny Miller Kahalawai Media Corp. www.kahalawai.com On Mar 15, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Chuck Hill wrote: > The only problem I see is that we would have to stop doing this for free and > demand that people pay for support. That makes the community less self > supporting than it is now. And for larger support needs, that cuts into some > of our day jobs. > > > Chuck > > > On 2012-03-15, at 1:08 PM, Johnny Miller wrote: > >> Just a random idea I had I'm not sure if it's been discussed already but >> here goes: >> >> Maybe the community could sell support and members could donate their time >> to service the support. Seems like something people do anyway and at least >> this time the community could get paid for it. >> >> And then when developers run up against the objection of "why should I use >> WO if Apple no longer supports it?" the dev can say don't worry we can buy >> support from this organization who specializes in WebObjects. >> >> Anyway just a thought, >> >> Johnny Miller >> Kahalawai Media Corp. >> www.kahalawai.com >> >> >> >> On Mar 15, 2012, at 7:25 AM, David Holt wrote: >> >>> >>> On 2012-03-15, at 10:04 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Le 2012-03-15 à 12:19, James Cicenia a écrit : >>>> >>>>> I think a better strategy is that we get a volunteer to go to Apple and >>>>> sit there until Tim Cook meets with said volunteer. >>>>> >>>>> With the iOS making major penetration into the corporate world, this is a >>>>> perfect opportunity to get the tools in there too! >>>> >>>> Ok, so knowing Apple, they will make sure that a new release of WO that >>>> will only to talk to iOS devices. I don't think they care much about the >>>> Web. I'm pretty sure that it was discussed inside Apple... >>> >>> The WEB is dead!! The WEB is dead!! >>> >>> (long live WebObjects :-) >>> >>>> >>>>> We could all chip in $100 or so to pay for transportation, room and >>>>> board. >>>>> >>>>> I could volunteer for the assignment. >>>>> >>>>> James >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 15, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I don't think Apple cares about petitions, or else OpenDoc, HyperCard >>>>>> and other stuff would still be around :-) I guess we can try to email >>>>>> Tim Cook directly. >>>>>> >>>>>> I always wondered how many of us have opened issues in Radar to ask for >>>>>> new releases of WO? >>>>>> >>>>>>> Petition the new boss to APSL the rest of WO 5.4.3. We've already got >>>>>>> JavaWOExtensions, JavaMonitor, wotaskd, and the web server adaptor >>>>>>> code. The whole thing would be nice, but I only count 8 core >>>>>>> frameworks that we really need, 14 if you count java client. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ramsey >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 15, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So based on what people said, this is what the "community roadmap" for >>>>>>>> this year should be: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Finishing the tutorials >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Writing a Getting Started with Project Wonder book >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Improvements on the development and deployment tools to make them >>>>>>>> easier to work it (especially on starting up, like an installer than >>>>>>>> install Eclipse, WOLips and the WO/Wonder frameworks) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Fixing bugs or doing improvements that are affecting at least 25% of >>>>>>>> the community (the 2G limit of WOFileUpload, model reverse engineering >>>>>>>> bugs, etc.) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Documentation about how to move to Wonder APIs instead of the >>>>>>>> straight WO APIs (that's the first part before moving to alternatives) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Better integration between WO and iOS/Android >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anything else? >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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