Looks like most WO devs in North America are working directly or indirectly for 
Apple. That would explain why we have more Europeans coming to WOWODC than 
people near.

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À : Chuck Hill
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Objet : Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple


I see people disappear from this list every time they are hired by Apple. I 
just noticed Kieran has not been active in the list and his linked in profile 
says he is now at Apple.

:-)

On May 4, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Chuck Hill 
<ch...@gevityinc.com<mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com>> wrote:

Gee…. I wonder if he will still associate with us now!

From: Ramsey Gurley <rgur...@smarthealth.com<mailto:rgur...@smarthealth.com>>
Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 10:24 AM
To: David LeBer 
<dleber_wo...@codeferous.com<mailto:dleber_wo...@codeferous.com>>
Cc: Chuck Hill <ch...@gevityinc.com<mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com>>, 
WebObjects-Dev 
<webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com<mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>>
Subject: Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple

Hugi, you’re famous now :D

http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-officially-discontinues-webobjects-2016-5


On May 3, 2016, at 4:20 PM, David LeBer 
<dleber_wo...@codeferous.com<mailto:dleber_wo...@codeferous.com>> wrote:

Yeah, I was surprised by that too.

Apple rarely gives definitive statements on anything, let alone a long dead and 
forgotten product ;)

--
D


On May 3, 2016 at 7:11:05 PM, Chuck Hill 
(ch...@gevityinc.com<mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com>) wrote:

I am surprised that Hugi got a clear statement from Apple. That must have taken 
some persistence! “Frank, this damn Hugi guy keeps bugging us every year, get 
rid of him!”

:-)





On 2016-05-03, 4:04 PM, 
"webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc....@lists.apple.com<mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc....@lists.apple.com>
 on behalf of Pascal Robert" 
<webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc....@lists.apple.com<mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc....@lists.apple.com>
 on behalf of prob...@macti.ca<mailto:prob...@macti.ca>> wrote:

>
>> Le 3 mai 2016 à 12:47, Flavio Donadio 
>> <fla...@donadio.com.br<mailto:fla...@donadio.com.br>> a écrit :
>>
>> Hugi,
>>
>>
>> That’s bad news, but it’s exactly what we expected, in a certain way. The 
>> silence and lack of updates for such a long time were telling us the truth, 
>> although we wouldn’t accept it — there had to be a final word, straight from 
>> the horse’s mouth! I guess we have it now.
>>
>> So, they say WO is dead. We say “long live, WO!"
>>
>> We should move on to the next step: nagging Apple to release WO/EOF as open 
>> source software! ;-)
>
>This topic comes around every year. Multiple people asked this to Apple over 
>the last 7 years. It won’t happen. Final.
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Flavio
>>
>>
>>> On 03/05/2016, at 12:19, Hugi Thordarson 
>>> <h...@karlmenn.is<mailto:h...@karlmenn.is>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all.
>>>
>>> We probably all know that WO's been practically dead to Apple for a long 
>>> time, but unfortunately Apple has refused to state so officially (at least 
>>> I don't recall there being an official statement).
>>>
>>> Anyhow… In the past years I've regularly sent letters to Tim Cook, asking 
>>> about the state of WO (being the naggy guy I am) and recently, I was 
>>> contacted by Apple executive relations regarding my questions. The guy I 
>>> spoke to called a couple of times, at first, he had absolutely no idea what 
>>> WO was but the second time he called, he had obtained information and had a 
>>> clear statement: "WebObjects is a discontinued product and will never be 
>>> upgraded".
>>>
>>> I know this information is extremely redundant, but I still wanted to tell 
>>> you since it was something of a relief. Felt a little like the police 
>>> calling you to let you know that they'd found the remains of your friend 
>>> that's been missing for 15 years and finally declared him dead.
>>>
>>> But of course, this changes nothing; WO is still better than ever. We just 
>>> need to continue to distance Wonder from WO and move forward.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> - hugi
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