Hi Hugi,

Now, why did you have to go kill WO. Couldn't you just have let it live its 
peaceful life in retirement :-)

It's been a long time. Hope you are all well. 

-Cail

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> On May 4, 2016, at 19:30, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is> wrote:
> 
> Well, f***… Wouldn’t you know. I’m the man that killed WO.
> 
> - hugi
> 
> 
>> On 4. maí 2016, at 17:24, Ramsey Gurley <rgur...@smarthealth.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hugi, you’re famous now :D
>> 
>> http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-officially-discontinues-webobjects-2016-5
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 3, 2016, at 4:20 PM, David LeBer <dleber_wo...@codeferous.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, I was surprised by that too.
>>> 
>>> Apple rarely gives definitive statements on anything, let alone a long dead 
>>> and forgotten product ;)
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> D
>>> 
>>>> On May 3, 2016 at 7:11:05 PM, Chuck Hill (ch...@gevityinc.com) wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I am surprised that Hugi got a clear statement from Apple. That must have 
>>>> taken some persistence! “Frank, this damn Hugi guy keeps bugging us every 
>>>> year, get rid of him!”
>>>> 
>>>> :-)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2016-05-03, 4:04 PM, 
>>>>> "webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc....@lists.apple.com on behalf of 
>>>>> Pascal Robert" 
>>>>> <webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc....@lists.apple.com on behalf of 
>>>>> prob...@macti.ca> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Le 3 mai 2016 à 12:47, Flavio Donadio <fla...@donadio.com.br> a écrit :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hugi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That’s bad news, but it’s exactly what we expected, in a certain way. 
>>>>>> The silence and lack of updates for such a long time were telling us the 
>>>>>> truth, although we wouldn’t accept it — there had to be a final word, 
>>>>>> straight from the horse’s mouth! I guess we have it now.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, they say WO is dead. We say “long live, WO!"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We should move on to the next step: nagging Apple to release WO/EOF as 
>>>>>> open source software! ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> This topic comes around every year. Multiple people asked this to Apple 
>>>>> over the last 7 years. It won’t happen. Final.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Flavio
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 03/05/2016, at 12:19, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We probably all know that WO's been practically dead to Apple for a 
>>>>>>> long time, but unfortunately Apple has refused to state so officially 
>>>>>>> (at least I don't recall there being an official statement).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Anyhow… In the past years I've regularly sent letters to Tim Cook, 
>>>>>>> asking about the state of WO (being the naggy guy I am) and recently, I 
>>>>>>> was contacted by Apple executive relations regarding my questions. The 
>>>>>>> guy I spoke to called a couple of times, at first, he had absolutely no 
>>>>>>> idea what WO was but the second time he called, he had obtained 
>>>>>>> information and had a clear statement: "WebObjects is a discontinued 
>>>>>>> product and will never be upgraded".
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I know this information is extremely redundant, but I still wanted to 
>>>>>>> tell you since it was something of a relief. Felt a little like the 
>>>>>>> police calling you to let you know that they'd found the remains of 
>>>>>>> your friend that's been missing for 15 years and finally declared him 
>>>>>>> dead.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But of course, this changes nothing; WO is still better than ever. We 
>>>>>>> just need to continue to distance Wonder from WO and move forward.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> - hugi
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