Apple is a HUGE organization. Portions of the company still use WebObjects, but not what we are using. It really doesn’t matter that Apple is using an internal version of the software does it?
Paul > On May 4, 2016, at 2:40 PM, Joel M. Benisch <jo...@paperfree.net> wrote: > > Which would seem to indicate that work is continuing on WO for Apple's > internal use ???? > > Am I stating the obvious??? > > Joel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Joel M. Benisch CPCU, President > 973-992-6300 x303 > PaperFree Corporation > 973-992-6666 FAX > 909 Regal Boulevard > j...@paperfree.net <mailto:j...@paperfree.net> > Livingston, NJ 07039-8249 WE CREATE PRODUCTS WE WOULD WANT TO USE! > > On May 4, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: > >> Looks like most WO devs in North America are working directly or indirectly >> for Apple. That would explain why we have more Europeans coming to WOWODC >> than people near. >> De : webobjects-dev-bounces+probert=macti...@lists.apple.com >> <mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+probert=macti...@lists.apple.com> >> <webobjects-dev-bounces+probert=macti...@lists.apple.com >> <mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+probert=macti...@lists.apple.com>> de la part >> de Ricardo Parada <rpar...@mac.com <mailto:rpar...@mac.com>> >> Envoyé : 4 mai 2016 13:53:31 >> À : Chuck Hill >> Cc : WebObjects-Dev >> Objet : Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple >> >> >> I see people disappear from this list every time they are hired by Apple. I >> just noticed Kieran has not been active in the list and his linked in >> profile says he is now at Apple. >> >> :-) >> >> On May 4, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Chuck Hill <ch...@gevityinc.com >> <mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com>> wrote: >> >>> Gee…. I wonder if he will still associate with us now! >>> >>> From: Ramsey Gurley <rgur...@smarthealth.com >>> <mailto:rgur...@smarthealth.com>> >>> Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 10:24 AM >>> To: David LeBer <dleber_wo...@codeferous.com >>> <mailto:dleber_wo...@codeferous.com>> >>> Cc: Chuck Hill <ch...@gevityinc.com <mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com>>, >>> WebObjects-Dev <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com >>> <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> >>> Subject: Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple >>> >>> Hugi, you’re famous now :D >>> >>> http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-officially-discontinues-webobjects-2016-5 >>> >>> <http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-officially-discontinues-webobjects-2016-5> >>> >>> >>> On May 3, 2016, at 4:20 PM, David LeBer <dleber_wo...@codeferous.com >>> <mailto:dleber_wo...@codeferous.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah, I was surprised by that too. >>>> >>>> Apple rarely gives definitive statements on anything, let alone a long >>>> dead and forgotten product ;) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> D >>>> >>>> On May 3, 2016 at 7:11:05 PM, Chuck Hill (ch...@gevityinc.com >>>> <mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com>) wrote: >>>>> I am surprised that Hugi got a clear statement from Apple. That must have >>>>> taken some persistence! “Frank, this damn Hugi guy keeps bugging us every >>>>> year, get rid of him!” >>>>> >>>>> :-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2016-05-03, 4:04 PM, >>>>> "webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc....@lists.apple.com >>>>> <mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc....@lists.apple.com> on >>>>> behalf of Pascal Robert" >>>>> <webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc....@lists.apple.com >>>>> <mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc....@lists.apple.com> on >>>>> behalf of prob...@macti.ca <mailto:prob...@macti.ca>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >> Le 3 mai 2016 à 12:47, Flavio Donadio <fla...@donadio.com.br >>>>> >> <mailto:fla...@donadio.com.br>> a écrit : >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Hugi, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> That’s bad news, but it’s exactly what we expected, in a certain way. >>>>> >> The silence and lack of updates for such a long time were telling us >>>>> >> the truth, although we wouldn’t accept it — there had to be a final >>>>> >> word, straight from the horse’s mouth! I guess we have it now. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> So, they say WO is dead. We say “long live, WO!" >>>>> >> >>>>> >> We should move on to the next step: nagging Apple to release WO/EOF as >>>>> >> open source software! ;-) >>>>> > >>>>> >This topic comes around every year. Multiple people asked this to Apple >>>>> >over the last 7 years. It won’t happen. Final. >>>>> > >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Cheers, >>>>> >> Flavio >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >>> On 03/05/2016, at 12:19, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is >>>>> >>> <mailto:h...@karlmenn.is>> wrote: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Hi all. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> We probably all know that WO's been practically dead to Apple for a >>>>> >>> long time, but unfortunately Apple has refused to state so officially >>>>> >>> (at least I don't recall there being an official statement). >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Anyhow… In the past years I've regularly sent letters to Tim Cook, >>>>> >>> asking about the state of WO (being the naggy guy I am) and recently, >>>>> >>> I was contacted by Apple executive relations regarding my questions. >>>>> >>> The guy I spoke to called a couple of times, at first, he had >>>>> >>> absolutely no idea what WO was but the second time he called, he had >>>>> >>> obtained information and had a clear statement: "WebObjects is a >>>>> >>> discontinued product and will never be upgraded". >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> I know this information is extremely redundant, but I still wanted to >>>>> >>> tell you since it was something of a relief. Felt a little like the >>>>> >>> police calling you to let you know that they'd found the remains of >>>>> >>> your friend that's been missing for 15 years and finally declared him >>>>> >>> dead. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> But of course, this changes nothing; WO is still better than ever. We >>>>> >>> just need to continue to distance Wonder from WO and move forward. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Cheers, >>>>> >>> - hugi >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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