I'm amazed no one has mentioned servlet technology as a "cheap" alternative to WO. The
standard servlet interface is supported on any decent web server on any decent
platform (we use JRun Pro on NT) and there are loads of Java frameworks for databases
that are comparable (IMHO) to WebObjects, from "entry level" stuff up to full-blown
stuff (anyone looked seriously at Enterprise JavaBeans?). You pay for only what you
want. (Indeed we have built our own WO-like Java classes for entry level database
handling stuff so all we pay for 500 bucks for JRun.)
Where WO is still better is in application deployment and management [at least when
Monitor doesn't crash ;-) ] - it does seem to stay up longer.
Just my 2p.
/andy
At 11:52 AM -0800 9/3/99, Pierce T. Wetter III wrote:
> At 11:32 AM -0800 3/9/99, Jeroen Clarysse wrote:
>> I just phoned with a low-level programmer who has written his own webserver
>> and stuff. He says that, for $25K, he can write a multithreaded, ultrafast
>> UNIX C-app that does all the basic stuff for form-processing, database
>> access and page-generation with a nice GUI. (using PowePlant, GUI is easy)
>>
>> in fact, he tells me that, for this price, any small programmers team can
>> write a package that does everything a *lightweight* WebObjects would do.
>> With no tpm-limit. "perfect for your small intranet solutions" as he puts
>> it : "Handles 100hits per minute like a piece of cake".
>>
>>
>> that summs it up pretty much I think why Apple is losing WebObjects at a
>> high rate.
>
> I've actually done the above. It was kind of a mini-WO. You could have a
><TWINFORCES> tag in your HTML, and our server would parse the HTML and generate pages
>on the fly. We even did database access.
>
> Sure, it cost about $25K.
>
> But it didn't work 100%. Read the EOF chapter on "Uniquing". We didn't do that.
>Nor did we have an easy way to handle session identification, timeouts, or form
>processing. Or caching.
>
> Plus there weren't any web page design tools that could handle a <TWINFORCES> tag.
>
> And so on.
>
> Until you've tried to do it the hard way, you don't realize how cool WO is.
>
> Pierce
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