Pierce,

As a matter of fact, our Apple sales rep will be here in 15 minutes to 
discuss this matter.  Still, we are discussing Apple's publicly announced 
prices.  Obviously any price in the world is subject to negociation, but I 
don't want to bother others about any terms that we strike up with Apple. 
 As far as why you are wasting your time, I don't know why.  Maybe instead 
of asking a public forum why you are wasting your time you should just not 
post such questions.

-Afshin Behnia

-----Original Message-----
From:   Pierce T. Wetter III [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, March 10, 1999 9:33 AM
To:     Afshin Behnia
Cc:     Multiple recipients of list
Subject:        RE: Unfair WO4 pricing - the attitude of apple

At 9:00 AM -0800 3/10/99, Afshin Behnia wrote:
> Pierce,
>
> I think that you are assuming the following:
>
> 1.  You assume everyone who purchases WO will build a one-time custom
> Internet app, like a store or something.  By assuming this, it is very 
easy
> to justify the cost of WO as it drowns in the development costs.  But 
this
> assumption is not true.  Some of us build almost shrink-wrapped
> applications on WO and sell them with WO.  In our case, the WO cost 
becomes
> a significant cost of the total solution for the client.
>
> 2.  As I mentioned before, you also assume WO will be used only for
> Internet use, where the cost of communications lines are high.  Our apps
> are for intranet use where bandwidth is practically free.
>
> When you make your cost justificaiton charts, I hope you will address 
these
> issues.

  I will definitely include #2. In fact, the chart already lists the
internet cost as a seperate item.

  As for #1, for resale of shrink-wrapped apps, YOU are assuming that
Apple doesn't have a reseller plan.

  THEY DO! You can bundle WO with your SWA, Apple charges you a % of
your application cost. TALK TO YOUR APPLE REP. Geesh. Why am I
wasting my time with someone who bitches about costs in an open forum
instead of just picking up the phone and talking to their Apple rep.

 Pierce
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