Hi all,
should we open a webobjects-talk list?
CU
Christian van der Leeden
Afshin Behnia wrote:
>
> Pierce,
>
> As a matter of fact, our Apple sales rep will be here in 15 minutes to
> discuss this matter. Still, we are discussing Apple's publicly announced
> prices. Obviously any price in the world is subject to negociation, but I
> don't want to bother others about any terms that we strike up with Apple.
> As far as why you are wasting your time, I don't know why. Maybe instead
> of asking a public forum why you are wasting your time you should just not
> post such questions.
>
> -Afshin Behnia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pierce T. Wetter III [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 9:33 AM
> To: Afshin Behnia
> Cc: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: RE: Unfair WO4 pricing - the attitude of apple
>
> At 9:00 AM -0800 3/10/99, Afshin Behnia wrote:
> > Pierce,
> >
> > I think that you are assuming the following:
> >
> > 1. You assume everyone who purchases WO will build a one-time custom
> > Internet app, like a store or something. By assuming this, it is very
> easy
> > to justify the cost of WO as it drowns in the development costs. But
> this
> > assumption is not true. Some of us build almost shrink-wrapped
> > applications on WO and sell them with WO. In our case, the WO cost
> becomes
> > a significant cost of the total solution for the client.
> >
> > 2. As I mentioned before, you also assume WO will be used only for
> > Internet use, where the cost of communications lines are high. Our apps
> > are for intranet use where bandwidth is practically free.
> >
> > When you make your cost justificaiton charts, I hope you will address
> these
> > issues.
>
> I will definitely include #2. In fact, the chart already lists the
> internet cost as a seperate item.
>
> As for #1, for resale of shrink-wrapped apps, YOU are assuming that
> Apple doesn't have a reseller plan.
>
> THEY DO! You can bundle WO with your SWA, Apple charges you a % of
> your application cost. TALK TO YOUR APPLE REP. Geesh. Why am I
> wasting my time with someone who bitches about costs in an open forum
> instead of just picking up the phone and talking to their Apple rep.
>
> Pierce
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