I would humbly accept the nomination if a significant audience concurred
with my opinion as expressed in writing and felt my recent insertion in
these activities was sufficient.  Thank you for your kind remarks.  I have
observed the OGB for quite some time now and feel I may be of some
assistance if the communities would have me.

Times in leadership call for silence and some in extremis.  Ideally this is
a community clearly marked in the median, far from either end.  I will begin
to propagate my opinion and ideas for this community moving forward into the
genunix pages created thus far so that discussion may actively follow.

--Ron

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hi, Ron ...


Ronald A. DeMena III wrote:
> I appreciate the outcry of supporting response and well placed intent and
> concerns of others.  In response, I would like to add the following
> thoughts...
>
> - Offering the Core Contributor role/rights is a grand gesture of
confidence
> in the people who are working to step up, 

Thank you.

> however, I wish to caution this
> body on allowing the former WEB members a core contributor role with
little
> more than active discussion on a TLD issue and a few votes around a
polling
> graphic.  Essentially agreeing with a comment earlier about not forcing
our
> way into a CC role. (Although on an alternative, it could be argued the
> individuals were serving and performing their function)
>   

Good points. But we have to start somewhere and bootstrap a CG. We have 
to get going.

We only need 3 CCs to start, but we have many more people who have been 
involved at various times and who I'd consider core. This is good news. 
Things should move faster. If we get approved by the OGB, then we can 
hack out a process for creating new contributors and core contributors 
-- just as every CG should do. We'll need a facilitator, too, to help 
manage some of the operations and help with project creation and 
interact with the OGB. We'll need writers and editors and coders. We 
have policies to write. We have pates to edit. We have projects to start 
and manage. There's lots to do.

Also, we are honestly trying to make the best of an admittedly awkward 
situation, learn from our mistakes, and move on. So, we are taking 
people at their word who have been involved and who have a desire to 
help solve some of these issues. Very simply, we have a pool of people, 
Alan is asking them to confirm their status, and we trust that most will 
make the proper decision for him/herself. That was Alan's idea, and I 
think it's a good way to get started. We are trying to reduce the amount 
of spinning conversation and increase the speed of implementation by 
focusing the conversation around specific jobs. Right now, our job is to 
get some people together, update the proposal, get it approved, and get 
going.


> - I believe individuals who have long been proven to perform the core
> contributor role in other communities who are active here should be the
> initial individuals in the community granted to perform the roles, as well
> as the community founder(s).  Sun employees or not, I believe the numbers
do
> not matter.  As prejudiced as some may believe, the Sun Employees are not
as
> biased or slanted as some may think.  

I would agree with that. :)

> I for personal reasons would like to
> note I work for EDS and my participation in this community is strictly
> personal and not in any representation of my employer, which is a
> significant Sun Microsystems Partner.
>   

Cool. Since the early pilot program, we've tried to build a community 
based on individuals first.

> - I believe I too must still earn my right to obtain the goal of becoming
a
> core contributor regardless, however if permitted early, I will do my best
> to serve its function.
>   

I appreciate that. If we all feel we have to earn our way, that provides 
motivation to stick around and work and solve problems.

> - I believe that the active responses given thus far show many individuals
> have a guarded interested in establishing active moderation of content in
> addition to opening the road for others to provide input and talents.  We
> are here to foster a creative environment with an ultimate intent of
> benefiting the global community of OpenSolaris users.
>   

Yes, and many others agree as well. I would especially agree with the 
global part as we grow around the world.

> - I believe that the core contributors should classify the significant
> individual content providers and active moderators promptly and
> appropriately after proving themselves, this can be a delegated
> responsibility as well for any CG participant to move from observer to
> contributor who wishes to get involved and shows that interest.
>
> For those who do obtain the CC role please consider the following:
>
> - Accept all individuals who produce consistent input the rights to be
> considered for the contributors role.
>
> - Give the content moderators at least a contributor role as they would
> rightfully hold the keys to content control in that function.
>
> - Pursue the use or adoption of a formal change engine for both content
> moderation and submission, be it bugzilla, mantis or some other tool.  I
> believe these emails can become overwhelming when it comes to following
> conversation around a proposal, RFE, or otherwise.
>
> - Establish clearly documented standards around content that would be
> submitted such that it conforms with graphical and contextual guidelines
and
> styles
>   

I think we can have discussion on these and other issues as part of the CG.

> I am still be interested in aiding moderation, helping draft content
> standards, and even working to provide regularly timed articles or content
> that could be reviewed or placed by way of blogged RSS feeds or otherwise.
> Content is never easy to produce and sometimes individuals need to
research
> it to make it worthwhile.  Additionally finding moderators who can
> essentially govern the use of standards, colors, styles, etc... is a
needed
> service too.  Offering the other CGs' an editor who can help get content
> about their group published as content may be an open opportunity for
people
> to interact and service this groups goals too, it may even foster
> participation in other groups.
>
> In my closure of this note, if final accounting of core contributors does
> include me, although I humbly believe I have not yet earned it, I will
serve
> the role to the best of my ability to hopefully prove my worth to those
who
> are supporting this action.  If I am left out, I would simply request and
> appreciate the opportunity to rightfully earn this role as an active
> participant.
>   

Well, you are being invited in. It's your decision. :) Whether you 
decide to be a founding CC or not, you are always welcome to participate.

Jim

-- 
http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/

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