Under no circumstances would you ever want to put an identification number in NM103, regardless of your implementation (HIPAA or non-HIPAA).
As mentioned in another post, code "SV" is now available for use in the 834 addenda for the NM108 qualifier which takes care of the issue raised by Judy's question. The term standard as used in the segment notes refers to the use of the available qualifiers named in NM108 and a value in NM109. Currently those are "34" (Social Security Number), "FI" (Federal Taxpayer's Identification Number), "SV" (Service Provider Number), and "XX" (the NPI once it becomes mandated for use). Paul Weber 916-449-6970 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wiegand, Sean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 14:25:44 -0800 To: "WEDI SNIP Transactions Workgroup List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: 834 provider information loop > My reading of the provider loop NM103 is "The name should only be used when > the sponsor is not able to provide the standard ID number." Since > proprietary numbers are non-standard, I believe an ID number might go in > NM103, with NM108 & NM109 left blank. How helpful is this interpretation? > > Regards, > > Sean E. Wiegand > Sierra Health Services > > -----Original Message----- > From: O'Dell, Judy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 12:17 PM > To: WEDI SNIP Transactions Workgroup List > Subject: RE: 834 provider information loop > > > The project I'm working on has the same situation where they have a > proprietary identifier for their providers. From what I've been able to > tell, using any of the qualifiers (FI, 34, XX) in the NM108 with the > proprietary identifier would technically be out of compliance since it would > not be following the definitions of those qualifiers. I'm interested to see > what others in the group have to say since this is a problem for us, too. > > Judy ODell > EDS > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joan Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 2:49 PM > To: WEDI SNIP Transactions Workgroup List > Subject: 834 provider information loop > > > I have a question concerning the 834 transaction for the 2310 Provider > Information loop (beginning on page 140 of the IG). Segment NM108 value > "XX" is used for Health Care Financing Administration National Provider > Identifier. > > My question is: Can we use value XX in NM108 and use our companies > proprietary provider identifier in NM109 until the National Provider > Identifier is implemented? We would then add this to our trading partner > agreement. > > Thanks, > > Joan Perry > Fortis Benefits Insurance Company > > --- > The WEDI SNIP listserv to which you are subscribed is not moderated. 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