On Apr 2, 2007, at 4:07 PM, Noy wrote:
#1 Holy/Arcane Damage.
Cool.
#2 Mage renaming.
L1 "apprentice/novice mage"
L2 "mage" "white mage"
L3 "silver mage" "master mage" "mage of light"
L4 "arch mage"
L5 "elder mage"(defador)
I think we should move forward on this, although maybe a better
word than master (Even though it is correct for period, its sounds
grammatically funny).
Just for reference, I'm not personally pushing for this; I was merely
saying "if others felt that the names needed to be changed, these are
what I'd change them to". I certainly wouldn't mind them changing,
but I don't feel too strongly about it.
Some possible alternatives: "Magister," "Wizard," "Sage," "Expert
Mage," "Learned Mage," "Conjurer".
I personally especially like "Magister" - it's connotation of teacher
is especially appropriate (since what we currently call Arch Mages
often do end up as teachers of some sort), and
At the same time we might think about also changing the white mage
line as well, since we might as well do it for consistency's sake.
Eleazar and I have discussed this, and I'd personally like to see a
more religiously themed name for them (Something like Clergyman/
priest and rector) because they are religiously inspired units,
While eleazar would like to use cleric and keep mage of light. I'm
not so partial either way, but it is something to discuss.
Cleric -> Hierophant, anyone? :D
For those who are wondering, this was made famous through the tarot
card (orig. Pope) which referenced the following:
"Hierophant, n" The role of the hierophant in religion is to bring
the congregants into the presence of that which is deemed holy. The
word comes from Ancient Greece, where it was constructed from the
combination of ta hiera, "the holy," and phainein, "to show." In
Attica it was the title of the chief priest at the Eleusinian
Mysteries."
#3 Rebel mages.
Mythological and jb have been consistent and persuasive argument
about changing the use of mages in both the elves and the
loyalists. We've agreed to it, but under several balancing
stipulations. One is that the movetype must be different from the
elves, and the second is that it must have a different alignment.
So we'd like to keep it a human, mage serving the elves, but a
different starting unit than the regular mage. Given that we've
wanted to remove the white mage from the rebels inventory, I think
this is a good opportunity to do so. We'd like to create a
"woodland mage" to replace the mage in the elves. What we need is
art. I was thinking that we'd have two different level 1 mage art,
but they can later share the lvl 2 and 3 and 4 art. The main change
will be the woodland mage would have 5-4 magic fire attack, rather
than the 7-3. This will avoid balancing problems all together.
One term that has precent in games is "hedge wizard"; another
interesting twist we could go for is to call them "Errant Mages,"
like Errant Knights - under the premise that they were sent to the
woods not unlike a student traveling abroad to study.
I'm not opposed to, nor in favor of this change; however, I think the
easiest way to provide art for this would be _retroactively. E.g, if
you want to do this, start by just using the existing L1 mage art; I
can then update that art with something better. As much variance as
our units have, as obvious the opposing faction is during a game, and
as similar as they'd be to the existing mages, it wouldn't hurt if
they looked the same for one release in the dev version._______________________________________________
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