They made good money of it I think... The list price was HUGE! Martijn
On 8/30/06, Johan Compagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > looks to me (and i did know this before) that WO was light years ahead of > its time > Such a pitty that apple did keep it so closed... (do they something right > ;)) > > johan > > > > On 8/30/06, Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Martijn Dashorst <martijn.dashorst <at> gmail.com> writes: > > > > > > > > Apple will make (most of) WebObjects open source with the new release > > > ( http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0608webobjects.html). > > > > > > Has anyone worked with WebObjects and wishes to comment on it compared > > > to Wicket? > > > > > > Martijn > > > > > > > We can only compare the presentation stack of WO vs Wicket. Having worked > with > > both frameworks, here are some thoughts : > > > > - Java code is MUCH cleaner with WO, you keep in code only data pushed in > the > > presentation layer and actions. No need to add components and configure > them in > > java code. > > > > - Components are declared in HTML, configured in another file, binding > > (configuring) the component with the java class. This approach need tools, > WO > > has some nice tools for this. That's why Tapestry is not even close to WO > here. > > > > - Wicket is statefull. So is WO by default, you can also use it in a > stateless > > way, loosing the convenience of component action but keep the need of a > session > > to the last moment. That's a very good point for WO, which can be used to > build > > public stateless websites. > > > > - Wicket has nice URLs (if we want to). WO not really. (keeping an ugly > > cgi-bin/WebObjects in URLs) > > > > - WO is not multithread by default. (When deployed, you can deploy > multiple > > instances of the same app) > > > > - WO's validation is done at the data layer and not really good. Wicket's > is > > rather good. > > > > - WO is very mature (first version in 1996, yes the first component > framework > > and ORM tool...), has good documentation and is a little...dead (only > > maintenance versions) > > > > - Wicket is young, active but lacks of solid documentation for the moment. > > > > - Both frameworks (i'm not talking about EOF here) are rather easy to > learn. > > > > - Often, you have to do it the WO way... or not doing it. > > > > - In WO, you don't need to create custom components if you don't need them > > elsewhere. In Wicket if you want keep a simple and maintenable code for a > rather > > complex page, you should create Panels, other components... wich are not > needed > > in other pages. > > > > - Both frameworks make creation of custom components easy (unlike JSF!!!) > > > > - Wicket custom components can be shared with a simple jar, WO components > are > > bundled in "Frameworks" (custom packages). > > > > - Both frameworks are not using XML for configuration... > > etc etc > > > > Please correct me if i make false statements about wicket or wo :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > _______________________________________________ > > Wicket-user mailing list > > Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > _______________________________________________ > Wicket-user mailing list > Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user > > > -- Download Wicket 1.2.2 now! New Ajax components: Tree, TreeTable and ModalWindow -- http://wicketframework.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
