They made good money of it I think... The list price was HUGE!

Martijn

On 8/30/06, Johan Compagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> looks to me (and i did know this before) that WO was light years ahead of
> its time
> Such a pitty that apple did keep it so closed... (do they something right
> ;))
>
> johan
>
>
>
> On 8/30/06, Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Martijn Dashorst <martijn.dashorst <at> gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > >
> > > Apple will make (most of) WebObjects open source with the new release
> > > ( http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0608webobjects.html).
> > >
> > > Has anyone worked with WebObjects and wishes to comment on it compared
> > > to Wicket?
> > >
> > > Martijn
> > >
> >
> > We can only compare the presentation stack of WO vs Wicket. Having worked
> with
> > both frameworks, here are some thoughts :
> >
> > - Java code is MUCH cleaner with WO, you keep in code only data pushed in
> the
> > presentation layer and actions. No need to add components and configure
> them in
> > java code.
> >
> > - Components are declared in HTML, configured in another file, binding
> > (configuring) the component with the java class. This approach need tools,
> WO
> > has some nice tools for this. That's why Tapestry is not even close to WO
> here.
> >
> > - Wicket is statefull. So is WO by default, you can also use it in a
> stateless
> > way, loosing the convenience of component action but keep the need of a
> session
> > to  the last moment. That's a very good point for WO, which can be used to
> build
> > public stateless websites.
> >
> > - Wicket has nice URLs (if we want to). WO not really. (keeping an ugly
> > cgi-bin/WebObjects in URLs)
> >
> > - WO is not multithread by default. (When deployed, you can deploy
> multiple
> > instances of the same app)
> >
> > - WO's validation is done at the data layer and not really good. Wicket's
> is
> > rather good.
> >
> > - WO is very mature (first version in 1996, yes the first component
> framework
> > and ORM tool...), has good documentation and is a little...dead (only
> > maintenance versions)
> >
> > - Wicket is young, active but lacks of solid documentation for the moment.
> >
> > - Both frameworks (i'm not talking about EOF here) are rather easy to
> learn.
> >
> > - Often, you have to do it the WO way... or not doing it.
> >
> > - In WO, you don't need to create custom components if you don't need them
> > elsewhere. In Wicket if you want keep a simple and maintenable code for a
> rather
> > complex page, you should create Panels, other components... wich are not
> needed
> > in other pages.
> >
> > - Both frameworks make creation of custom components easy (unlike JSF!!!)
> >
> > - Wicket custom components can be shared with a simple jar, WO components
> are
> > bundled in "Frameworks" (custom packages).
> >
> > - Both frameworks are not using XML for configuration...
> > etc etc
> >
> > Please correct me if i make false statements about wicket or wo :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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