Hi John Thanks for the prompt response.
That's great to hear that the first four links in the top nav will be customisable so soon. :) Indeed, I think the ability to customise all eight links in the top nav will solve the problem (as I saw it) of the 'top content' box pushing the main nav box down the screen, because I think it will lessen greatly the importance of having that nav box near the top. In fact, I actually now think the 'top content' should be kept where it is, and at its current height, because it's obviously a very useful tool for people arriving at a wiki for the first time and wanting to see at a glance which pages are most popular. Best wishes Derrick Chains of Reason http://chainsofreason.wikia.com/wiki/Home On 10/5/07, John Q <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Derrick, > > Definite thanks for the feedback and, aside from your points below, glad > you like the new skin. Yes, understand your point. The top nav (to the > right of the wiki logo) has room for 8 links... right now the first 4 > aren't customizable but we'll be changing that pretty soon so that > admins have control of all the links up there. We'll be releasing that > next week and the syntax will be changed to match how it's done for the > regular Sidebar article. > > As for the navigation box and the top content box ... I'm looking at > ways to reduce the vertical size of the top content box so that the nav > box comes up higher. Also... right now the links in the navigation box > we just pull from the same Sidebar article that monobook uses and there > will probably be duplication of links between that and the top nav > links. We will soon make it so there's an v2 skin equivalent of sidebar > ... if it's blank the idea right now is to just use the monobook sidebar > instead so that there isn't an empty list. > > Thanks, > John Q. > > > Derrick Farnell wrote: > > Hi > > > > I wish to point-out what I believe is a significant layout problem > > with the new Quartz template. I only joined Wikia a couple of weeks > > ago, so apologies if this issue has already been raised. > > > > As you'll know, unregistered users (or registered users who are not > > logged-in) now see the wikis with the Quartz template instead of > > MonoBook. As you'll also know, the new template has optional widgets > > which logged-in users can add to the sidebar on the right. However, > > when viewing a wiki while not logged-in, the 'top content' widget > > (which lists the most active pages on the wiki), is present in the > > sidebar, even though it disappears when you log-in (unless of course > > you have selected in your preferences for it to show). The problem, as > > I see it, is that this widget is located directly below the ad box, > > which is (I think) always a relatively large square-shaped box for > > users not logged-in, which means that the navigation box in the > > sidebar is so far down the screen that it is actually off the screen - > > at least, it is with me whether I view the wikis on my laptop screen > > or my 19" desktop monitor. While I appreciate that the 'top content' > > box is useful, and think it is probably a good idea to have it showing > > for users not logged-in, it is surely much less important than the > > navigation box, and even the toolbox, and so surely should be placed > > below them. I appreciate that it is possible to add a further four > > links at the top of the page, to the right of the logo, but, given the > > number of links in the sidebar, I'd prefer to keep to just the four > > most important links at the top (although I'd prefer to be able to > > customize those four links, which is not possible, and which is > > another problem I have with Quartz). > > > > I've spoken to sannse about this and she told me that it is not > > possible to customise this for users who are not logged-in, although > > there are plans to make the sidebar 'more flexible and customisable in > > the future', but I think that this a problem that needs to addressed > > in the short term - obviously, ease of navigation is one of the golden > > rules of web design, and I'm very concerned that new visitors to Wikia > > will not be able to see the main set of navigational links when a wiki > > page loads, and will only see the default four links at the top, which > > we have no control over. > > > > Does anyone else agree with me on this? If there does seem to be > > general agreement that this is a problem which needs to be sorted in > > the short term, could Wikia consider doing so? I should say that, > > other than the above, I think Quartz is a significant improvement over > > MonoBook. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Derrick > > Chains of Reason > > http://chainsofreason.wikia.com/wiki/Home > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikia-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/wikia-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikia-l mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/wikia-l >
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